We currently use a bunch of Blue Snowball USB microphones to do our
Podcasting. These are great mics if you're only going to plug one
of them in to the computer, but if you need to have many people
talking at once the solution does not work as well. Recently I went
on a quest to get a great Firewire audio mixer that I could use to
bring each microphone into Logic as a discreet input. Why? By
having each voice on its own track I'm able to tweak audio in
post-production and make sure that everyone sounds great. If I mix
it down to one or two tracks I'll have a much more difficult time
fixing issues with one particular voice.
I looked around for a while at MOTU but they didn't have any really
good hardware control surfaces. M-Audio has the
ProjectMix
I/O control surface with Firewire interface, but I wanted some
aux outputs to route into my VoIP return audio feed (so anyone
joining us via VoIP could hear a return of the audio without their
own voice in the mix). I will say that the flying faders on the
M-Audio and direct
DAW integration
seems very nice. That aux return is fairly important for us though,
so I don't think I can do that. The
Tascam FW-1884 has
the same issue as the M-Audio box but without a sleek, sexy looking
surface. Then I stumbled across the Mackie Onyx line of mixers.
Analog mixers with aux out AND an
optional Firewire
board. This is the one! Or at least, I that's what I
thought.
As I researched the board more I got increasingly excited. I
started with the
Mackie Onyx
1220 then decided that I wanted more aux outputs and a few more
mic inputs. This would allow me to run a couple of computers with
my VoIP application of choice, each on a discreet track and with
the ability to re-route return audio back into the unit, minus
their own voice. I decided to move to the
Mackie Onyx
1620 which has 8 XLR inputs and 4 stereo 1/4" inputs (total of 8
additional jacks) with 4 aux outputs. With this system I could run
8 people in the studio with 4 unique VoIP conversations all on
their own audio track in Logic. This is a bit more than I need, but
versatile enough to work in just about any situation. It's perfect!
I continue my research only to find the killer: the Firewire board
is a direct pass-through of the input only. The Firewire output
bypasses the EQ, gain, faders, etc. If I want to make any
adjustments to my audio it must all be done on the computer. So,
what the heck is the purpose of even having a board then? This
makes the Firewire board just a glorified analog to digital
converter! This won't work in a live environment where I need to be
able to make quick changes on the fly. Having a tactile interface
is the whole point here! It should be easy to conduct a live
Podcast, record it to discreet channels in my audio application,
and make minor tweaks after the fact. I don't want to have to do
major editing when we're done, I want to just clean it up quickly
and post it ASAP!
I'm a bit disappointed that Mackie didn't include a switch that
allows me to chose pre or post effects on each channel. What could
have been the perfect audio interface for Podcasters turns out to
be a really expensive analog to digital converter. The board will
still allow me to run aux outputs and route the audio as I need, so
it's not an entire loss, but it's still a bit of a let down. I did
notice in the Mackie forums that there's a
modification that I can apply to get the board to act a bit more
like I want. I was hoping that the board would interface with Logic
and add keyframes every time I move a slider. This modification is
a bit different and just adjusts the audio on the fly before it
hits the Firewire board,so I don't actually get to see the end
keyframes in Logic. Not as sexy, but a workable solution. I really
suck at soldering, so I may need to ask around to friends who are
better at this stuff and see if they can help me mod the board.
I've actually not purchased anything yet. I'm still thinking that
while it's not the uber, super cool solution I was hoping for, the
Mackie Onyx 1620 is still the best option for me. What do you
think? Do you know of a board that allows me to do analog to
digital conversion, each channel is discreet, has analog analog aux
outputs (multiple) and allows me to control my DAW on the fly? Is
it just me or isn't that the ultimate Podcasting machine?!?
1. Posted by: Raheel Gauba on February 21, 2007 10:15 PM:
Ben,
The functionality gaps you describe in this Mackie mixer is actually pretty normal in these type of devices.
If you really want total integration and control, you should check out TASCAM FW-1082.
A more cost effective method that most people use is a dedicated firewire recording interface (ex: TASCAM FW-1804) combined with a dedicated Midi control surface such as the Behringer BCF 2000 (a VERY cheap alternative to Digidesign Command 8 Control Surface). This gives you the flexibility to upgrade your recording hardware whenever you feel you have outgrown its capabilities while still keeping the hands on control on the mix via the control interface...
Hope this helps!
-rg