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Steve: Good evening. It’s a
great way to end a great day. Like to welcome to our evening keynote. Before
Ray Kurzweil came along, computers were boring to most, they crunch data, they
were big expensive lurking machines that were just beginning to enter the home
and computers aren’t boring anymore. And Ray had a lot to do with it. He
taught computers to read, to talk, to listen and to make music. His devices
were expensive at first, but he saw the day when you’d be able to go to your
local toy store and buy a computer or scanner or a musical keyboard or a speak
and spell child’s game. At the time, he was one of the few who saw already of
that and help make it happen. Histories inspiring on many grounds up, one of
my journalism school classmates blinded in a hunting accident when he was
seven, Ray has proof, living proof that the day of the iconoclastic
multi-disciplinary inventor did not die with Thomas Edison. In fact, Inc
Magazine ranked him number eight among entrepreneurs in the United States,
calling him the rightful heir to Thomas Edison. PBS included Ray as one of the
16 revolutionaries who made America along with other inventors of the past two
centuries, one of the top 16 in two centuries. As one of the leading inventors
of our time, Ray really did do all those things to the computer. He was the
principal developer of the first CCD Flat Bed scanner, the first OmniFont
optical character recognition, the first print to speech reading machine for
the blind, the first text to speech synthesizer, the first music synthesizer
capable of recreating the grand piano an other orchestral instruments and the
first commercially marketed large vocabulary speech recognition software.
His website, KurzweilAI.net
has over one million readers. Among his many honors, he is recipient of the
$500,000 MIT Lemelson prize, the world’s largest prize for innovation. In
1999, he received the National Medal of Technology, the nation’s highest honor
in technology from President Clinton in a White House ceremony. In 2002, he
was inducted -- you know you’re around the White House, you never know, Ah, --
inducted it to the National Inventors Hall of Fame established by the US
Patent Office. Ray Kurzweil has received 13 honorary doctorates and honors
from three US Presidents. He’s written five books, four of which have been
national best sellers. His Age of Spiritual Machines has been translated into
nine languages, and was the number one best selling book on Amazon in science.
His latest book, The Singularity Is Near, was in New York Times’ best seller
and had been the number one book on Amazon in both science and philosophy. He
is here today to talk about the accelerating future of information and for
students and parents here, his story I think is especially inspiring. Unless
at least some of us follow in Ray’s footsteps, creating things that never
existed rather than following a safe career path incremental change that sort
of thing. Our economy won’t be safe at all. We have to continue innovating,
not just incrementally, or we lose our economic leadership, our technology
leadership to other countries. Others can make things cheaper, they may even
make things look better, innovation is our only edge. Ray is still making
news. The current issue of Fortune magazine, the one that you’re going to get
in a couple of days, has a six page article on him. You’re getting the
preview. I’d like to ask you to help me welcome Ray Kurzweil.
Ray Kurzweil: Well, thanks
Steve for that warm introduction and I’ve been looking forward to this
conference. Killer Apps has always been close to my heart being an inventor
decided I would be an inventor when I was five, lately I’ve gotten involved
with some medical technologies and I’m not sure we want to call those killer
apps but we’ll find some different phrase and broadband is going to be
increasingly influential as we engage in virtual reality environments and
spend more and more of our time in virtual reality and like just this morning,
I needed to give a speech in Ontario, I happen to be here in Fort Wayne so I
actually appeared there using a technology called teleportex, it’s not video
conferencing, it’s 3-dimensional, full emergent virtual reality and appeared
as if I was there, life size, real time, I could see the audience, they could
see me as I moved around, they saw the local background behind me, so it
looked like I was actually there, I am actually the only speaker in the world
that has his own system like this and I give because it’s scheduling issues
and I get a lot of invitations from Asia, Europe, I use this technology quite
a bit, so that’s virtual reality today, it’s a bit cumbersome, we have to send
a technician with the equipments to the venue and this fairly elaborate setup.
This will be ubiquitous technology using broadband thus we go into the future
will have images written directly to our retina from our eyeglasses that’ll
solve the problem of wanting big displays while having devices that are tiny,
we’ll have these tiny devices that are eyeglasses will create virtual displays
that are high definition, hovering in air or can take over your whole visual
field of view and put you in a virtual reality environment, you should go
there by yourself over the other people and share information like we’re doing
now, like I did this morning, virtually, but this will be something we can all
do as easily as making a cellphone call. In fact the telephone was a first
virtual reality technology and that was the first communication link that was
not broadband but that did foster our ability to communicate with each other,
something that only our species does and since I’ve decided to be an inventor
at age five as I mentioned, I’ve been an ardent student of technology trends
because I realized pretty early on that the key to being successful as an
inventor was timing, and most technologies, most inventors failed not because
they can’t get the thing to work, but because the timing is wrong, not only
enabling factors around placement they need to be. So I began building these
models of technology trends and tracking how technology evolves and being an
engineer, I collected lot of data and I found that these models were actually
quite predictive and this is taken a life of its own, I have a group of 10
people now that gathers data in many different fields and we build
mathematical models and -- we’re able to predict how technology will evolve
decades in the future and you might say “Well, how could that be?” Because a
common wisdom is you can’t predict the future. And that’s true for specific
projects, if you ask me “How’ll this killer app do?” Or “What’ll the next
wireless standard be will it be CDMA G3 -- generation three, generation four?”
That’s hard to predict.
Will Google stock be high
or low than it is today three years from now, that’s hard to predict, but if
you ask me what will the cost of a Mips of computing be in 2010, or the
special resolution of brain scanning in 2012, or the cost of sequencing a base
pair of DNA in 2014, I can give you a figure and it’s likely to be accurate
then I say this now, not just over fitting to pass data, but making these
forward looking predictions for several decades for example, I saw the Darpen
net doubling every year in the 80s, went from $10,000 to 20,000, one year
that’s $40,000. Will doubling every year, is this exponential growth as
multiplying by a 1,000 in 10 years, a billion in 30 years, so I figured that
in the 1990s, there should be $20 million is going to 40 million to 80 million
to 160 million and would be a world wide communication that so I described
something like the world wide web, not by that name, emerging in the mid 1990s
that was resoundly criticized in the 80s when only a couple of 1,000
scientists were using this very unreliable and very low bandwidth Darpen net
but it came out right on schedule, the first reference of the world wide web
in New York Times was late 1993, and so the Chess supercomputers doubling in
power every year that added 40 points every year to the Chess score of these
computers because the Chess score is a logarithmic scale so as they got
exponentially better, it added 40 points that put across over in 1998, so I
predicted a computer will take the World Chess Championship in 1998 in mid 80s
that seemed absurd when the average Chess player could beat the best Chess
machines, and then in 93, Kasparov, the Chess champion was asked about my
prediction and he said “That’s ridiculous. I’ve played the best Chess machines
in the world and they’re pathetic, they’re predictable, they’re brittle,
there’s no way they’ll ever touch me.” And he had that confidence based on
what he saw and people mostly based their expectations on what they see and
not really taking in the consideration this exponential growth, well, if it
was a true observation in 93, they saw it passed them in 97. The Genome
project, we now see that as a hallmark of science, one would assume that must
have been a big announcement in 1991, they announced this 15 year project to
sequence a human genome but that was dismissed by mainstream critics who said
that in 1989 they had their best PCs students and most advanced equipment
around the world, they manage to sequence 110 thousands of the genome, it’s no
way they’re going to do this in 15 years. And halfway through the project, the
skeptics were still going strong saying I told you this wasn’t going to work,
I mean here you are halfway through a 15 year project and you finished 1% of
the project, but if you double 1% seven more times, you get a 100%, that’s
exactly what’s happened that’s continued passed the end of the Genome project
four years ago and every other example of biology has been gearing up in this
exponential fashion.
The price performance, the
capacity the bandwidth of information technology right now is doubling every
year. And even that rate has sped up, took it three years to double the price
performance of computing in 1900, two years, the middle of the 20th
century, it was 12 months in the year 2000, it’s now about 11 months, or this
is slow acceleration and the rate of acceleration, but just consider doubling
every year that’s what’s applying by a billion in 30 years, you take the
second level of exponential growth, it’s 25 years to be exact. We’re also
shrinking technology in an exponential rate. According to my models, at rate
of 100, but 3D volume for decade so in 25 years, that’s a 100,000. So imagine
how influential information technology is today. How we use broadband and the
computers and these tiny devices that fit in our pocket and how it really
transformed the world and how the internet and search engines are greatly
expanding our access to each other and to information and then imagine
multiplying this by a billion fold over the next quarter century. Well, at the
same time, we shrink the size of these devices by a factor of 100,000, the 3D
volume and you will get some idea of what will be feasible. But to come back
to my earlier point about how can you predict the future, the common wisdom is
that you can’t, it’s true that you can not predict specific projects, but the
overall impact is very predictable and you might wonder well, how could that
be, or we see other examples in science are predictable results coming from a
chaotic, dynamic, random system where each element is highly unpredictable and
the quite essential example of that is thermodynamics which comes from the
nineteenth century which predicts the properties of a gas and then actually
models the gas as being made up of a large number of particles, each of which
follows what’s called a random block, meaning it’s just follows completely
unpredictable path, so you can tell where this molecule will be 10 seconds
from now, but the overall gas, the overall system made up of a large number of
unpredictable particles, is very predictable. According to the laws of
thermodynamics to a very high degree of precision so if you have a large
dynamic system, you can predict it’s overall outcome and technology evolution
is just such a dynamic, chaotic system in which the overall results are highly
predictable and I’m going to show you a few dozen examples, we’ve hundreds of
these but if you can measure the information content, our process whether it’s
speed of computers, or the monogenetic sequencing or that the scale of
pro-dynamic simulations, many different examples, they follow these
exquisitely exponential progressions that are highly predictable and the other
observation is that this exponential growth is not just limited to
electronics.
You’ve probably heard of
Moore’s Law which is a shrinking of components on an integrated circuit, so
you can put twice as many every two years on a chip and they run fast because
they’re smaller, that’s given exponential growth to computing and to
electronics, but it’s not just limited to that. It applies to everything in
which we can measure the information content and an area that is now
transforming from having been a pre information era to a becoming an
information technology is health and medicine, which I mentioned earlier that
didn’t used to be an information technology or an information science. It was
basically hit or miss, we’d find something, oh here’s something that lowers
blood pressure, we don’t know why this works but it seems to have some benefit
but also has lots of side effects and most of the drugs on the market today
were done that way, process called drug discovery and that process was
automated to some extent so that they could automatically try out 50,000
compounds and try to find something that combats a specific pathogen or lowers
blood pressure, but we didn’t have the tools to really reprogram biology, in
fact we didn’t understand biology as a set of information processes but
biology is essentially a set of information processes. It starts with our
genes, those are linear sequences of data. We have these 23,000 software
programs inside us called genes which haven’t changed much in thousands of
years and they involve conditions were quite different. For example, the fat
insulin receptor gene which evolved a long time ago basically says hold on to
every calorie because in next hunting season may not work out so well and that
was a good strategy a thousand years ago when calories were few and far
between. If you have it and bound some calories, you wanted to store them in
your body, there were no refrigerators. In fact the fat insulin receptor gene
was the innovation that allowed animals to roam around plains don’t have a fat
insulin receptor gene. Well, this now underlies an epidemic of obesity, it’s
not a good strategy in the era of abundance to store every calorie when you’ve
got more than enough already stored. Or what happened if we turn that gene off
in the fat cells this was tried at Towson Diabetes Center and we have a new
technology, RNA interference that can turn genes off but these animals eat
ravenously and remain slim and it wasn’t a fake slim this has got the health
benefits of being slim, they didn’t get diabetes, they didn’t get heart
disease, they live 20% longer, they got the benefits of caloric restriction,
all doing the opposite and there’re five pharmaceutical companies rushing to
bring fat insulin receptor gene inhibitors to the human market. This is one of
the 23,000 genes we’d like to consider either turning off or modifying their
new form of gene therapy where we can modify genes or actually add new genes.
I’m involved with one
company where we take a cell out of the lungs, modify it in vitro adding a new
gene and then we can inspect that it got done correctly, then we multiply it a
million fold which is a well established technology injected back into the
body these millions of modified cells, they go through the blood stream, they
are lung cells so they end up in the lungs and this is cured a fatal disease
pulmonary hypertension in animals and this is now being tested in humans and
the initial results are quite positive. This is one example of many of being
able to really reprogram biology, so we will have not just designer babies but
designer baby boomers which is something I’m personally more interested in.
But, the point is that biology and therefore health and medicine is becoming
an information technology and as such it is now subject to just what I call
law of accelerating new trends. This doubling of the price performance and
capacity of these information technologies in every arena and the I’ll
describe little bit later how even energy which is very much not an
Information Technology today based on an old industrial technology of fossil
fuels will actually transform using nanotechnology within 20 years to begin
Information Technology and there will be subject to this law of accelerating
returns. Now, these models of predicting technology trends are developed
initially to time my own technology projects and that’s still the primary
application although a fall out is that we can then anticipate what these
technologies will be like, what’ll broadband be like in 10 years or 20 years,
computers devices or health and biological technologies, we can anticipate
what their capacity will be and we can’t build inventions with computers
circuit 22 or 25 but we can talk about them and we can invent at least your
books and through discussions that the products and technologies and the
killer apps of 10, 15, 20 years from now. So, I spend a little bit of time
doing that but to show you one example, it was mentioned that I’ve been
involved with reading machines for the blind for 30 years, developed the first
batch of featuring machine for the blind in 1976, it was a little bit smaller
than this lectern, quite expensive and they’re up with some libraries, Steve,
you wanted it buy one and over the -- I’ve stayed involved in this field and
over the years they’ve gotten smaller and smaller and actually more and more
powerful and keeping with rest of electronics but up until recently, it was
still a device that was on your desk and blind person will bring reading
material back to their desk and read it.
Well, if you think about
your day today, how much reading material and just incidental reading you did
as you go through the day, it’s really part of being -- taking part in the
visual world, science on the wall, bank ATM display, menu at a restaurant,
you’d like to be able to read as you go through the day, so in various
presentations at disability technology conferences, I would say will some day
a blind person will be able to take a device out of their pocket and just read
it all the materials they go through the day. So, four years ago, actually
five years ago now, 2002, I had a conversation with Dr Marc Maurer, the
President of the National Federation of the Blind, and I’d worked with that
organization on the first reading machine and he said “Ray, you’ve been
talking about this pocket size reading machine for years, when this is going
to be possible?” And I said “Well, according to our models of electronic
technology, digital cameras and pocket computers, the requisite hardwares of
all these application will be available in four years, 2006. Second quarter to
be exact.” And he said “OK, how long will it take to develop the software?”
And I said “Well, we can’t just take OCR and speech synthesis and compress
them into the PDA. We’ve to add a new layer of software because there’s a
blind person holding this device as three different degrees of freedom of
rotation and tales, images will be curved, there be uneven illumination from
the real world, you don’t want control illumination of scanner, pro quality
optics, distorted images…” I listed seven or eight vagaries of real world
print taken by a handheld camera. He said “OK, I understand, how long will it
take.” I said “Four years.” He said “OK. Let’s get started.” So we got started
in 2002 and right on schedule, this spring of 2006, the requisite digital
cameras with PDA technology became available, a little bit to my surprise, we
actually the software project done on time and in last summer, we introduced
the KurzWeil National Federation of the Blind Reader which is this device here
and there’s now a thousand blind guys and girls going around, reading the
labels on their clothing, remainders at the book store handouts to meetings
like this and really reading as they go through the day and I’d give you a
little demonstration of this.
Machine Recording: This
system is in shooting mode. Camera is off, I’m ready.
Ray Kurzweil: You can see
synthetic speech has improved.
Machine Recording: Camera
is on. Field of view report. Top and left edges are visible 59% filled, taking
picture.
Ray Kurzweil: The field of
view report is actually quite comprehensive little. For blind person just
pointing at a wall, it’ll actually tell him or her to move to the
left.
Machine Recording: Free
processing picture.
Ray Kurzweil: Like getting
off the left side of a poster.
Machine Recording: Camera
is zero degrees clockwise relative to the page.
Ray Kurzweil: I think I hit
that on, that’ll actually rotate.
Machine Recording: Page
one. GN 189. The AI winter is long since up and we’re well into the spring of
neuro AI. Most of the examples about the research project just hand to 15
years ago, if all the AI systems in the world suddenly stopped functioning,
our economic infrastructure would grind to a halt, your bank would cease doing
business, most transportation would be settled, most communications would
fail. This was not a case the decade ago, of course, our AI systems are not
smart enough to get organized start you a conspiracy strong AI. If you
understand something in only one way, then you don’t really understand it at
all. This is because if something goes wrong, you get stuck with the thought
that just sits in your mind with nowhere to go. Speaking cancelled. Camera is
off. And unsave doc. Good bye.
Ray Kurzweil: That is a
passage from my book. It’s talking about artificial intelligence. People often
ask me whatever happen, AI anyway reminds me people that going to the rain
forest and say “Well, where is the species that was supposed to be here.” When
these 50 species advanced within 25 feet of them, but they are invisible.
They’re deeply integrated into the ecostructure. AI is deeply integrated into
our economic infrastructure and there’re hundreds of examples. Every time you
send an email, Intelligent Algorithms route the information. Same for
cellphone calls, Intelligent Algorithms fly and land the air planes, guide
intelligent weapon systems, make billions of dollars a day of financial
decisions to automatically detect credit card fraud, help design products
where computer system design, control just in time, inventory levels help
build products and robotic, factories automatically diagnose
electrocardiogram, same for blood cell images, and I can list a hundred other
applications and as the passage points out, if all the AI, Artificial
Intelligence programs, programs that are performing functions that used to
require human intelligence, were to stop tomorrow, our modern infrastructure
will grind to a halt and that wasn’t true 25 years ago. 25 years ago or even
20 years ago, these were research projects. So -- and the narrowness of these
AI applications is gradually getting less narrow. So, we’ll talk more about
that, but let me show you quickly some examples of just how pervasive this
exponential growth is, of Information Technologies. Because of the exponential
growth of Information Technology, the paradigm shift rate, basically the rate
of technical progress is itself accelerating. Now you might say “Well, that’s
obvious”, but it’s not something that people intuitively consider. When I was
at a conference a few years ago on the 50th anniversary of the
discovery of the structure of DNA, all of us speakers were asked to take, we
made progress in last 50 years and medicine, what’d the in next 50 years
bring? All the speakers there, except for one other guy, Bill Joy, and myself
use the last 50 years as a model for the next 50 years but that’s wrong. I’m
quoting on all of us to make 32 times as much progress in the next 50 years as
this last 50 years. So even Jim Watson himself, the co-discoverer of DNA, said
“Now in 50 years, we’ll have drugs and then eat as much as you want and remain
slim.”
And I said “We’ve done that
in animals. There’re five pharmaceutical companies rushing to bring patents on
receptive gene inhibitors using RNA interference to the human market. It’ll be
well within one decade, not five.” All of their predictions were generally
overly conservative by failing to take this exponential growth into
consideration. So, these graphs are what I call logarithmic graphs as you go
up the graph, it’s multiplying something by powers of 10, so each level, above
the level, below it is 10 times greater and a straight line or logarithmic
graph is exponential growth. So, the telephone, I mentioned that was the first
virtual reality technology that took half a century to be adopted by a quarter
of the US population. Cellphone did that in seven years. These early
communication technologies telephone, television, radio took decades to be
adopted by a mass audience, and this the cellphone, the web, personal computer
were adopted in just a few years time. In this acceleration has continued.
Think back five or six years ago, most people didn’t use search engines, and
we think of life without search engines, that sounds like ancient history.
That was five years ago. Social networks, blogs, podcasts, I mean these terms
didn’t exist three years ago. The pace of progress has continued to
accelerate. And I’ve all theories as to why this is the case. It’s really a
theory of evolution, both biological evolution and technological evolution and
basically, an evolutionary process evolves a capability, adopts that
capability and uses it to evolve the next stage, so the next stage goes more
quickly and the fruits of the next stage grow exponentially. So this is double
logarithmic graph on the x-axis, it’s how long ago this paradigm shift took
place. On the y-axis, it’s how long it took for that paradigm shift to be
adopted this is all in powers of 10.
So the first paradigm shift
in evolution, basically the evolution of DNA, actually RNA came first. That
took a billion years but then evolution adopted DNA, has used it ever since.
And the next stage when a hundred times more quickly, the Cambrian explosion
when all the body plans of the animals evolved, that only took 10 million
years and then that became a mature technology and so evolution concentrated
on something else, higher cognitive function, that only took a few million
years and then evolution evolved the technology creating species that took
only a few hundred thousand years. It’s actually only three simple genetic
changes that distinguish us from our primate ancestor and these changes
comprise only a few tens of thousands of bytes of information but they were
very significant, they were the enabling factors for technology. One is a
larger skull so we can have a bigger brain at the expense of a weaker jaw, so
don’t get into a biting contest with another primate. More of the brain is
devoted to the shrivel cortex where we can do abstract reasoning, we can do
variety of experiments in our mind, what if I took that stone and that stick
and tie them together with that twine, that could create a tool and extend my
leverage and then we have an opposable appendage that allows us to actually
manipulate the environment and carry out these variety of experiments and
create tools. They might think that a chimpanzee’s hand looks very similar. It
looks similar but the pivot point is done one inches, just a bad design,
evolution hadn’t finished. If you watch a chimp, they’re pretty clumsy, they
don’t have a power grip, they don’t have fine motor coordination, they can’t
really build tools and there’s discussion about chimps using tools but it’s
not technology, the tools don’t evolve, they don’t the tools to create out the
tools. Tools never change, their basic can find a stick and grab it, hold it
pretty clumsily and stick it into a whole but that’s about it, we can actually
create tools and then use the tools to create other tools and so technology,
is this whole evolutionary process they respond from the technology creating
species. And the first step and that were little bit faster.
Tens of thousands of years
for the first steps in technology, stone tools, fire, the wheel and then, it
kept accelerating because we used tools to create new tools. 50 years ago, the
first computers were designed pen on paper, wide with screwdrivers, to gears,
to build. Now, a computer designer will use a computer and 12th
generation computer system design software to automatically compute 14 layers
of intermediate design and a new computer can be designed in a matter of days
and this forms a straight line on this double logarithmic graph showing the
continual acceleration of biological evolution and technological evolution
leading smoothly from biological evolution. And some people looked to this and
said, “Well, Kurzweil only put points on the graph if they fit on the straight
line.” And if there was a paradigm shift that didn’t fit on the straight line
I just didn’t bother.” That included, so to address that criticism, I took 15
different lists from 15 different thinkers, called Sagan’s Cosmic Calendar,
Encyclopedia Britannica, American Museum of Natural History, Dozen Dollar list
as to what they thought the key events were in biological and technological
evolution and you can see there’s some disagreement. Some people include that
Darpanet with the internet and so it is 25 years, not 10 years, some people
think the Cambrian explosion took 25 million years, not 10 years million
years, this disagreement when human language started, buts you can see there’s
definitely a clear trend line, a great clear acceleration, even though there’s
a slight spreading of the points. Nobody thinks the internet took a million
years, nobody thinks the Cambrian explosion happened in ten years. Not much
happened in a million years, a billion years ago, there’s a very clear
acceleration in this evolutionary process. And as I mentioned, the power of
Information Technology is doubling every year and it really applies to every
type of Information Technology. So, a personal experience, when I came to MIT,
they had a computer shared by thousands of us, it took up about the size of
these twos audience sections here and it had 144,000 bytes of memory, a
quarter of a Mip, thousands of times less powerful than the computer in your
cellphone today.
Now, people say -- another
criticism of my projections is Kurzweil takes these exponentials and just
projects them in the feature and we all know that exponential growth can’t go
on for ever. Rabbits on Australia, they grow exponentially, but then that
exponential growth hits a wall when they eat up all the foliage and they can’t
expand any more. Well, that happens to be true for specific paradigms, but
what happens in Information Technology is when one paradigm that is bringing
exponential growth to electronics and computer technology and communications
hits a wall, it creates research pressure to create the next paradigm and the
next paradigm picks up with the last one left off. In Moore’s Law which you’ve
probably heard of, was not the first to bring exponential growth to computing,
it was the fifth paradigm, here I put 49 famous computers on a logarithmic
graph, this goes back over a century to the first data processing equipment
that is used in the 1890 census that used these all punch card machines which
was subsequently shipped to the Florida Election Commission. Interesting that
that joke still works, very hard to let down a reputation, even though they
did well in the last election. The next tripe was a whole new different
paradigm realize Alan Turing cracked the German Enigma code with a relay based
computer and as a lot of interesting war time literature about how Churchill
and Roosevelt couldn’t quite use the information that easily without tipping
of the enemy that their code had been cracked, so they would try to convince
the enemy they got the information some other way, if they knew a convoy of
ships was coming, they’d send over long flier, the German sailors would say
“Oh, we’ve been spotted.”
That was just a ruse so
they didn’t think that the code had been cracked, but then in the battle of
Britain, they three to one outnumbered Royal Air Force, won that battle
providing a launching pad for a D-day invasion, so that was relay based
computers. In 1950’s, the third paradigm, vacuum tubes came in and the
computers were build with vacuum tubes, CBS predicted the election of
Eisenhower, first time the networks did that, and then they were shrinking
vacuum tubes, every year making them smaller and smaller to keep this
exponential growth of computing going and that then hit a wall, they couldn’t
shrink the vacuum tubes anymore and keep the vacuum and that was the end of
the shrinking of vacuum tubes, it was not the end of the exponential growth of
computing, we went to the fourth paradigm, transistors which are not small
tubes, whole different approach and then we’ve had several decades of Moore’s
Law, shrinking components on the integrated circuits and there’s been regular
predictions that that will come to an end, the first predictions were 2002.
Intel now says 2022, by 2020, the key features on an integrated circuit will
be 4 nanometers that’s the width of 20 carbon atoms and around that, we won’t
be able to shrink them anymore that’ll be the end of Moore’s Law, but it won’t
be the end of the exponential growth of computing. We’ll go on to the sixth
paradigm which is the three dimensional molecular commuting. Chips are already
quite dense but they’re flat, they’re two dimensional, we live in a three
dimensional world, our brain is organized in three dimensions, we mostly use
the third dimension and this was a controversial notion when my 1999 book, Age
of Spiritual Machines came out, there’s been so much progress in this field
over the last eight years including getting these self organizing, three
dimensional molecular circuits to work, including my favorite, Nanotubes that
this is very much a mainstream expectation now.
Intel has these circuits
working, there’s actually a Nanotube based memory due to hit the market next
year and they expect the crossover point to be in the teen years and but
notice how smooth this progression is. I mean this is the results of millions
of people innovation and all kinds of vagaries of human history, went through
two world wars, a cold war, the great depression and a lot of other things
that happened in the last 120 years and you have this very smooth progression
and it’s not a straight line as you can see is that’s the slow second level of
exponential growth and super computers marching along exponentially. I
predicted in my last book, The Singularity Is Near, which came out a year and
a half ago that super computers would hit 1016, that is 10 million
billion calculations per second by 2013, that’s a significant threshold
because that’s the most conservative estimate of the amount of computation
needed to simulate the human brain and generally my predictions are considered
radical when they come out, they end up by design being slightly conservative.
Just recently, IBM and Japan announced super computer projects they hit that
threshold by 2010 and I don’t want to devolve in these examples of
electronics. You’re probably familiar with them, but look at this graph here,
this is the cost of a transistor, so when I was a high school student growing
up in New York, I would hang out at the Surplus Electronic shops in Canal
Street and buy something about four times the size of this for $50, equivalent
to one transistor but a lot slower. Come 1968, I could buy a whole transistor,
a lot faster than the relay for just $1. 2002, you could buy 10 million
transistors for a dollar. Today, it’s hundreds of millions of transistor for a
dollar. Now, you’ve heard these fantastic comparisons of how far we’ve come in
terms of electronics, although it continues to be impressive to consider these
many examples, keep in mind that that also applies to a comparison of today to
the future.
We’ll make another billion
fold increase over the next 25 years, but the other interesting thing about
this graph is, look at how smooth this progression is. This it looks like I’ve
put up some table top experiment but this actually the measure of the
innovation and the killer apps of millions of people in thousands of companies
in dozens of countries, all competing with each other and there’s been wars
and bankruptcies and IPOs and out of all this chaotic human behavior in
history, you would think that this would be a very erratic curve. Look at how
smooth and predictable this is and as we made those transistors cheaper,
they’re better because they’re smaller so the electrons have less distance to
travel so they’re faster, we’ve had smooth exponential growth in the speed.
The cost of a transistor cycle has come down by half about every year and
that’s 50% deflation in electronics, turns out that every other example that
we can point to, of Information Technology, where we can measure the cost, has
a 50% deflation rate. The cost of genetic sequencing has come down by half
every year, the cost of collecting brain data cuts come down by half every
year, the cost of databases in many different fields comes down by half every
year and also doubling the amount of human knowledge that is online, every
year and depending on what week it is, the economists will worry about
inflation or deflation and then they’ll tell you that deflation is bad also,
we had massive deflation during the American depression and the concern is
that as the more and more economy becomes comprised of Information Technology,
it’s already quite substantial, it’s growing, it will be most of the economy
by the 2020s, and if that has a 50% deflation rate, then its size in economy
will shrink. Yes, we will buy more capability if we can get it for half the
cost, but we’re not going to double our consumption year after year of
Information Technology and ultimately, we’ll not just be electronics and
information like music files and movies, it’ll also be physical stuff with
nanotechnology which will be in Information Technology, we’ll be able to
basically print out three dimensional objects that can perform a wide range of
functions, for example a shirt or a meal a or a computer or a solar panel and
basically physical stuff will also be in Information Technology, just as we
can take an information file now and create a recorded album, a movie, a book,
we’ll also be able to create these physical objects and if you can get them
for half the cost each year, that’s going to lead to a shrinking in the
economy as these of measuring constant currencies for various reasons, that’s
not a good thing. That’s actually not what we see. We’ve actually more than
doubled our consumption of Information Technology every year. In every area of
Information Technology, there’s been 18% growth in constant dollars of the
last half century, despite the fact it can get twice as much capability, each
year for the same amount of money and the reason is there’s new applications
as price performance reaches certain levels, whole new application explode on
the landscape. People didn’t buy iPods for $10,000 which is what it would’ve
cost 10 years ago and broadband applications, they’re just waiting new forms
of full emergent virtual reality for the cost of transmitting a bit to come
down which it does by half every year, so these applications will explode in
the landscape as new price performance makes them possible and I mentioned the
biotechnology revolution, smooth decline in the cost of sequencing DNA from
$10 for a base for 1990, a fraction of a penny today, the first genome cost a
billion dollars.
I met recently with the
Directors of National Institute of Health and they’re collecting a million
genomes to reliably match gene states with disease states. Well, they wouldn’t
have done that when the genome cost a billion dollars, now they were close to
a $1000 genome, billion dollars to collect a million genome is a reasonable
investment. This is the amount of genetic data we’ve sequenced as slope on
this log graph represents a doubling every year of the amount of slope on this
log graph represents a doubling every year of the amount of genetic data we’ve
sequenced, but look at how smooth this is. This again, it looks like it’s the
I’ve put up a table top at sure, this is a measurement of thousands of
companies all competing with each other, it’s not an organized process, and
now we see this very smooth, very predictable exponential progression. The
same thing is true of communications, broadband is already quite ubiquitous
but broadband itself is quite variable, we’ll have ultra high broadband to
really create full emersion, visual, auditory, virtual reality systems early
in the next decade and it’s many different ways to measure communications,
wired, wireless, fiber optic, number of bits moved around and so on, but no
matter how you measured, there’s generally a doubling every 11 months, 12
months, 13 months depending on what you’re looking at. This is the graph I had
in the 1980s of the internet then called the Darpanet, I had just a little
piece of this but I saw the Darpanet doubling every year meant multiplying by
1000, 10 years predicted that this would be a world wide communication network
in the mid 1990s. You look at the same data on a linear scale, it looks like
this, this is the same data, but not on a log graph, on a linear graph. This
is how we experience the world, we don’t live in a exponential domain, we
experience it linear, it looks like the internet just came out of nowhere, the
World Wide Web just exploded out of nowhere in the mid 1990s, but if you look
at the exponential progression, you could see it coming. We’re shrinking
technology at an exponential rate, a rate of 100 per 3-D volume per decade and
we’re building systems at the molecular level, these are illustrations from
Mary Crux’s book that introduced nanotechnology 20 years ago but we’re now
actually building these kinds of systems and if I were to say that some day
we’ll have blood cell size of ICs, nano-engineered with multi-nanometer
features, going inside our blood stream performing therapeutic functions, you
think “Oh, well, that’s pretty far out futuristic stuff.” Well, we’re doing it
already, there’s already a first generation of blood cell sized devices with
nano-engineered features that are performing therapeutic functions in animals.
There’s four major conferences on this on BioMEMS, Biological Microelectronic
Mechanical Systems, and dozens of very impressive experiments, one scientist
cured Type 1 diabetes in rats with a blood cell sized device, seven nanometer
pores, let’s insulin out in a controlled fashion, blocks antibodies because
Type 1 diabetes is an odd immune disorder.
Scientists at MIT in the
University of Rochester have a blood cell sized device that can actually
detect the antigens specific to cancer cells, blood turned with the cell,
burrow inside, release toxins and destroy the cell. There’s a lot of other
impressive examples, this is a design for robotic red blood cell. Red blood
cells are actually fairly simple, we understand how they work and it brings up
an interesting observation about biology which is -- well, biology is very
intricate, it’s also very sub optimal, once we actually learn its principles
of operation, we can reengineer biological systems with nanotechnology to be
thousand driven millions of times more capable. So a conservative analysis of
these resperocytes robotic red blood cells indicates if you replace a portion
of your red blood cells with these robotic versions, you could do an Olympic
sprint for 15 minutes without taking a breath or sit at the bottom of your
pool for four hours, so “Honey, I’m in the pool” take on a whole new
significance. So, if we look at, say, the 21st century, what this
sick exponential progression of computation will continue, we’ll have plenty
of computation at low cost to simulate systems as complex as the human brain,
but what about the software? Or will these just be very fast calculators? The
software is progressing on its own in terms of our artificial intelligence
work. I mentioned that there’s already hundreds of examples of AI. you know
economic infrastructure, but one very important source of how human
intelligence works, is the human brain itself and it’s not hidden from us and
we have this grand project, this 50,000 scientists and engineers who are
figuring out how the brain works for one perspective or another and this is
also scaling up exponentially the special resolution brain scanning is
doubling every year, the amount of data we’re collecting on the brain is
doubling every year, the cost of that data is coming down by half every year,
but then another question is “Okay, we’re getting this information but can we
understand it?” Dugg Hoffstead has said for years, “Well, may be our brain is
just below that threshold necessary to understand our brain and if we were
smarter and able to understand it, well, then our brain would have to be that
much more complicated and we would never catch up with it.” And may be there’s
a math theorem in there that our complex system can’t be so complex as to
understand its own complexity.
It turns out that that’s
not the case, as we’re getting data on specific regions, we’re finding that we
can understand how they work, express the transformations they make the
information in mathematical terms and simulate among the computers and test
those simulations. This is a block diagram of a dozen regions of the auditory
cortex which have been modeled and simulated and then sophisticated
Psychoacoustic test applied to the simulation and they get very similar
results as applying those same test to human auditory perception. The same
thing is true for the cerebellum which is where we do our skill formation and
that’s a very important region because that’s where comprising more than half
the neurons in the brain and also for the visual system. There’s already a
detailed simulation which performs very similar to human visual perception and
this work is scaling up in exponential rate. That brings up another important
question which is how complicated is the brain. Well, the brain is not simple
but the apparent complexity is greater than the actual complexity of the
design. Take the cerebellum, if I would give you a cerebellum, say, here,
reverse engineer this, tell me how this works and you’ve looked at it and it
was trillions of deeply interconnected connections. Any one of those trillions
of connections was incredibly complicated and convoluted. You go all this,
this, we’ll never figure this out well we have figured it out, it’s actually
not that complicated there’s only a few genes that control it that actually
comprise only a few tens of thousands of bytes of information.
Well, how can a few tens of
thousands of bytes of information describe something that’s actually a billion
times more complicated? Well, if you look at this image here which you may
seen, it’s called the manual broad set, it’s a fractal, it looks like a very
complex image and it’s on the cover of a book called complexities, considered
a very complex image and it does look complicated and as you zoom in on it and
blow up the image, there’s complexity within complexity without end. Well, so
this is a very complicated image but design of the metal broad set it only six
sliders long. Apply interactively it’s a fractal that actually describes the
relationship with the human genome to the brain because what the genome says
about the cerebellum is a four different types of neuron, they’re organized in
one module of kind like this, now repeat that 10 billion times and add some
random variation with each reputation and the secret of the design is it’s
self organizing, so as a child learns to walk and to and to catch a fly ball,
it gets filled up with meaningful information, but the design is actually only
a few tens of thousands of bytes long and the whole design of the brain is
about 30 million bytes. How do we know that? Well, it’s in the genome and the
genome doesn’t have that much information in it, the whole genome is 800
million bytes including the so called junk DNA which isn’t junk but it
strictly whether it is done sees that sequences that are repeated hundreds of
thousands of times. ALU for examples is repeated 300,000 times and for those
of you who are mathematicians, you know that if you have repetition like that,
you compress information without losing anything, lossless compression, if you
apply lossless compression to the genome, I talked about this is the book, you
get down to about 30 to 50 million bytes and that describes the design of the
human body and brain, but then it’s a needed of fractals that actually gets
implemented. The point is not that brain is simple, the point is that it’s a
level of complexity that we can’t deal with, that we are dealing with.
There’s already 20 regions
that have been modeled and simulated there’s only several hundred altogether.
I make the case in chapter 4 of my book that we’ll have the models and
stimulations and really principles of operations of all several hundred
regions within 20 years. All of this is driving economic growth. I’ve already
mentioned this but we’ve had smooth exponential growth and productivity it’s
gone from $30 to $130 in constant dollars of the value of an average hour of
human labor and the adoption of these technologies is also an exponential.
This is E-Commerce, smooth exponential growth, it’s over trillion dollars
today and you might say “Wait a second. Wasn’t there a boom and a bust in
these dotcoms? How come we don’t see that on this graph. That was a Wall
Street phenomenon, not a main street phenomena. The actual adoption of these
technologies for smooth exponential growth but the investment community looked
at the internet in the late 1990s and said “Wow, this is going to change
everything, this is going to turn every business model on its head, it’s all
the values that these dotcoms swore.” And that was a correct perception and it
was going to do so exponentially but that doesn’t mean instantaneously, if you
remember my graph of the internet on the linear graph it was drawing
exponentially but it look like nothing was happening for 10 years, then
finally it exploded, so Wall Street came back three years later on 1999–2000,
since he hasn’t changed everything. I guess we were wrong and all the values
went the other way. In fact this boom-bust psychology is an accurate harbinger
what ultimately ends up being a true revolution.
We saw it in
telecommunications, we saw it in AI, in fact, we saw it in the rail roads in
the nineteenth century and now the internet and the Ecommerce is a true
phenomenon. You can argue whether Google is 37 to 1 price earnings ratio is
high or low, but it’s not 10,000 to 1. They do have $12 billion of real
revenue. This is now starting to be quite transformative and as we get
broadband everywhere and as broadband goes to Ultra Broadband, this will
become even more transformative and comprising even larger part of the
economy. So, early in the next decade, computers will really begin to
disappear, they’re already disappearing, may I have my whole photo collection
and movie collection on a 4 Gigabyte flash drive which is the size of my
fingernail and I have lost it. People complain that they lose their nano-iPods
as I mentioned we’ll solve this problem that people like large displays on the
one hand, but they also like devices even smaller than this, we’ll put them in
eye glasses, they’ll beam images directly to our retinas, creating either
virtual displays at a high definition floating in air or creating a full
emergent virtual reality experience, so one of the applications which you are
aware of at this conference, Telepresence, for things like surgery, doctors
can actually feel like they’re with a patient and examine their symptoms from
afar or virtual reality surgery, a surgeon that’s operating on the eye and
this is an actual technology that’s utilized, can be in a operating theater
with the eyes as this big and then they perform surgical functions on that
virtual eye, it gets translated to very fine precision movements of robotic
surgeon. This is used by the militarium like a on the Army Science Advisory
Board and there’s a big movement to take the soldier out of the weapon, but
make the soldiers feel like he or she in the weapon but through remote
communication and put the soldier in a virtual reality environment and even if
they’re in the weapon like an Abrams tank, , they’re not going to just open
the window and look outside, they are in a virtual reality environment. This
technology exists today, I’ve tried these systems.
Stanford has a very high
quality system that you put on these goggles and it appears like you’re in
another environment and it mentions how your head moves or you really feel
like you’re inside that environment, interesting experiments where they put
you in front of a cliff and then tell you to jump and even though people know
that they’re in a room, that they won’t jump, it’s so realistic. This will be
ubiquities technology, inexpensive, early in the next decade, this really will
solve the problem that people like to watch movies on devices this big but
they don’t really like an image that’s only one inch in size. So we are able
to actually control our visual experience. You can go to a virtual visual
auditory environment, design up new environments will be a new art form, so
you can meet like we’re meeting now, and in fact I do this now with speeches
but you can also have more intimate encounters, business meetings and so on
that are in these virtual visual auditory environments. Perhaps a most
important application will be augmented real reality. There’s already cars
where the navigation system is not some little display on the side, whether
it’s actually has animation right on the road by building it into the
windshield, but this will be in our eyeglasses so as we look at someone,
there’ll be a popup display reminding me this is birthday next Tuesday or
reminding me of what people’s names are, that would be very helpful and we’ll
have effective language translation providing subtitles on the word.
We’ll have interactions
using natural language with virtual personalities to conduct routine
transactions and this will be -- we’ll be online all the time with very high
bandwidth, wireless connection, the electronics will be woven in our clothing,
we’ll have the seamless mesh, it’s actually called the World Wide Mesh concept
where each device is not just spoken at the internet, if you could consider
your cellphone or your PC, these are not nodes on a network, they’re spokes
into a network and then there’s a network but ultimately, all these devices
with computing everywhere in the environment, internet clothing and everywhere
we go will be nodes on this big network the World Wide Mesh. Now, there was
not just sending and receiving your messages but also transmitting other
messages, so every time you need to make a connection, it’ll self organize to
provide that communication channel and also organize computation resources, so
you need a million computers for half a second, it’ll just find those
resources automatically, consider that right now, 99.9% of the computes on the
internet are on youths. You’ve got all these computers that are sitting
they’re doing nothing, somebody needs a million computers where the
computation, can easily harness your computers, well, there are initiatives
like the study at home and some medical simulations that are harnessing your
computers if you’ve subscribed to them, but this will all be organized in a
World Wide Mesh concept early in the next decade.
If you go out to 2029, it’s
when these trends will really become mature, we’ll have a billion fold
increase in the power of Information Technologies such as broadband by that
time. We’ll have completed the reverse engineering of the human brain. It’ll
be very powerful combination to take the pattern recognition powers of human
intelligence with ways in which machines are already disappeared, they can
remember billions of things accurately, they can transmit information at
electronic speeds which are million times faster than human language. But most
importantly, it’s not going to be an alien invasion of intelligent machines.
It’s going to expand our physical and mental reach and very literally, it’s
going to go inside our bodies and brains and expand our health and our ability
to do cognitive functions. Nanobots which already and I mentioned these are
first generation of these devices already being used in animals, we’ll be very
sophisticated a quarter of a century from now. They’ll be going inside our
bodies, keeping us healthy from inside, augmenting our immune system. They’ll
go inside our brains, interact with our biological neurons, there’re already
people with computers inside their brains, not get blood cell size but pea
size. If you have Parkinson disease, you can have a computer put in your
brain, that replaces the biological neurons destroyed by that disease and this
is an FDA approved treatment and the biological neurons are signals from these
healthy neurons and not getting signals from the computer, that works just
fine. The latest generation of this FDA approved neuro limb plan actually
allows you to download new software to the computer inside your brain from
outside the patient. We’ve lots of devices inside the body and brain already
that have two way communication, so it was pea size today, apply this 100,000
fold, decrease in size in billion fold increase in capability of the next
quarter century and these would be blood cell size devices, millions of them,
in our brains interacting with our biological neurons. So, you want to go in
virtual reality, the nanobots shut down the signals coming from your real
senses, replace them with the signals that your brain would be receiving if
you were in the virtual environment and then you feel like you are in that
virtual environment and again the design of these environments will be in new
odd form, some will be recreation of earthly environments like a Mediterranean
beach or the Tajmahal. Some of the fantastic imaginary environments that can’t
exist on earth, you can go there by yourself or go there with other people and
incorporate all of the senses. You would actually don’t have to be the same
person, you can become a different person, you go to move your arm, it moves
your virtual arm, design a virtual bodies to go with these virtual
environments will be part of the same design of that environment, but most
importantly, it’s going to expand human intelligence which arguably, our
computers already do.
I mean every time you use a
search engine, you’re plugging into a quite impressive manner, this
exponentially growing human knowledge base where there were species that has
knowledge altogether and we have increasingly intelligent ways of accessing
it, these computers are getting closer to us, we can already search the
internet, with devices that fit in your pocket, these ultimately will be in
our bodies and brains, it’s actually pretty convenient place to put them and
this will be an expansion, a continuation of this exponential expansion of the
mental powers of our human machine civilization and I’ll leave you with one
last trend before we take -- I’ve some dialogue about this. Human life
expectancy is not being a constant. This is the part of the process of human
is extending our reach. When our genes evolved thousands of years ago, it was
not in the interest of the species for the people to live on average past
childhood because then you are just using up the very precious and limited
resources of the tribe, so human life expectancy was in the twenties, 2000
years ago. It was 37 in 1800, that’s only 200 years ago. There was no
sanitation, so there were rampant bacterial infections, there were no
antibiotics, human almost died in their thirties and that was typical. It was
48 in 1900. It’s now pushing 80, but as we get to the matured part of this
ability to reprogram biology with biotechnology, with this, we’ll go into high
gear, then according to my models, 15 years from now, we’ll be adding more
than a year every year, not just an infant life expectancy, but to your
remaining life expectancy. So that’s a tipping point, as we go forward a year,
your remaining life expectancy will move on away from you, so if you can hang
in there for another 15 years, we’ll get to experience the remarkable century
ahead. Thank you very much.
Ray Kurzweil: Are there
microphones? If not, I can probably hear you.
Speaker: Just wondering how
long it’s going to take the nanotechnology, bio, electric for us to have
brainpower?
Question 1: Just wondering
how long it will take nano technology bioelectric for us to have this great
power?
Ray Kurzweil: Actually none
of us are all that smart by ourselves. We are all benefiting from in fact this
interconnectedness that broadband provides and there is this concept “the
wisdom of crowd”. So, when a crowed like this is very wise, if we can actually
harness that brain power together, it is very interesting experiments on that
where you take a crowd and if you use like embedding power, which was a good
way of accessing that wisdom, markets are very good way of harnessing, there
is no one personal is everything going on, but the whole crowed knows
everything that’s going on the market. Beside of a market, mechanism they can
actually estimate for example, the number of beans and the jar extremely
accurately and better than any of the individuals and instead of these bedding
parlours to predict the election, they were much better than the polls, they
were accurate in 49 out of 50 states, it is actually very high degree of
precision in the last election, so that’s actually one way in which we can use
broadband and the power of network to amplify all of our
intelligence.
Question 2: More on
speaking of amplifying intelligence, I focus my research in work that I do
Telepresence, I focus my research on Telepresence, because it is actually
bringing people together all over the world and allowing, I think Thomas
Friedman called it one of the great steroids, the acceleration of knowledge of
research of learning, where do you stack that on the Telepresence on the
importance of, some of the steroids and do you have any comments on
Telepresence?
Ray Kurzweil: Telepresence
is really on the cutting edge of this sharing of information. It is form of
virtual reality and it is really a harventure of what’s to come. I think it is
a tremendously powerful thing to be able to have a world renowned medical
expert to be really present with you if the patient is may be in Africa or
something. Education to really feel like you are with an educator and just the
ability to meet with each other, human communication is one of things that
makes us unique, but Telepresence is on the cutting edge of our being able to
meet without being limited by geographical limitations and as broadband gets
higher and higher quality all these other display technologies get higher and
higher resolution to the reality of Telepresence in a virtual reality is
getting more and more compelling. Ultimately you will all compete very well
with real reality, so in the case in the universities that students not
necessarily got a class they can watch it using video conferencing on the
Internet archived, it is perhaps looks crude compared to real reality today,
it is actually quite satisfactory, but ultimately it will be just as realistic
as being there and the ability to really meet including all of the senses
without the people using Telepresence, I think it is quite revolutionary,
things like Second Life as a whole another virtual reality environment, now
looks crude today, but think how crude video games were when they started pong
with stimulation of tennis, but it is was pretty crude, these games have
become quite realistic. Things like Second Life will be a whole virtual
reality environment that’s ultimately be as competing with real reality with
many advantages…
Question 3: Have you
considered what’s sort of social constrains of rules might have to go along
with the kind of virtual reality that you talked about, where you would
actually be shutting down your sensory receptions substituting in other,
because if that was done to you against your will and some one substitute are
very unpleasant reality that will be…
Ray Kurzweil: We have early
harventures of these issues now and that we do very intimate in things on our
computers, with people do go in just to chat room, is a form of virtual
reality, you are in another environment people take on a persona in
personality, people can misrepresent themselves, all these technologies can be
used for creative or destructive purposes. We do need to establish new
paradigms and also be able to verify who people are, maintain our privacy, so
there is this ongoing race between encryption and decryption. Actually, cell
phones today are pretty good encryption better than the old cell phones, I
would say we are doing OK despite the rampants identity theft and so on, but
these are issues with today’s technology and there is when we do have
computers running inside our bodies and brains and some people do have them
and those computer do communicate. Thinks I saw for viruses, spyware, software
that might actually influence the software running inside your body and brain
becomes even that much more important.
Computers already extension
of ourselves, this one even set her 10-year-old computer may as well be inside
his brain, because he carries it everywhere he goes, when she comes in the
doorway, she uses another window because she has got five or six windows open
on his screen and so these computers are already extensions of ourselves, we
can already see these issues. My own feeling is we are benefiting more than we
are harmed, but the downside of these technologies is something that concerns
me. I have been actually very active up on fairly serious downside, which is
abusive biological technologies, same technology they could enable us to over
come cancer by reprogramming biology, it could also abused by a bio-terrorist
to reprogram a biological virus to be more deadly and more stealthy and more
communicable and the good news is we actually have the technologies to protect
ourselves, RNA interference can turn off viruses, viruses or genes and I have
described rapid response system that we need to put in place that if a new
biological viruses destructive emergence, where it is natural like it can
evolve bird flu or unnatural like a terrorist weapon, we could respond very
quickly with a solution to that in the matter of days. It took us five years
to sequence HIV, we sequence SARS in 31 days. We can now sequence a virus in
one or two days, we could in a week have a rapid response to a new biological
virus.
One area where we do this
well is software viruses, where there is a new Software virus we capture,
reverse engineered create an antidote, spread the antidote widely out in the
Internet and it actually works pretty well not perfect, we can’t cross
Software virus so far concern list, but nobody has taken down even a portion
of the Internet for even one second of the last 10 years. Well, we need to do
something similar in biological technologies, but all these technologies are
double end swords.
Question 4: Hi, just our
little concern that you have talked about neuron, you are talking about
neurons doing everything, until last six years we have known that the neurons
are all controlled by glea’s and they grow where the gleas want them to, they
fire when the gleas tell them to, every glea is connected, no neuron is
connected, we really have a glea brain, not a neuro brain and …
Ray Kurzweil: It is true,
we have more gleal cells and that is going to be part of reverse engineering
of the human brain, but these – in fact there are some good models and
simulations of gleal cells. Ultimately, that will be part of the reverse
engineering of the human brain. We do find that for certain regions of the
brain we don’t necessarily have to simulate them at the cellular level, we can
simulate what the whole region does in transforming information and these
simulations are in different levels. IBM simulation of cerebral cortex is
right now at the cellular level including neurons and gleal cells and
ultimately we will be at the molecular level. Some of these other simulations
are actually simulating what the whole region does, but you make a good point
that gleal cells are definitely an important part of the brain.
Question 5: The electric
infrastructure in silicon valley is really straining under the increase
requirements of the computation explosion that has happened there as we moved
to the 20-30 time frame and then the big increase in computation, what
limitations is that have for our energy consumption and the ability of the
society to create that level of energy?
Ray Kurzweil: OK, I said
that I would talk about energy and we actually are a wash in energy, we have
plenty of energy in our myths, but we are not capturing it, if we captured one
part in 10,000 of the sunlight that falls on the earth, we would meet 100% of
our energy needs. Now, we don’t do that today, we could sell a panels on not
information technology they are all in industrial technology they are very
heavy, cumbersome, and inefficient, expensive, hard to install. There is a new
generation of nano engineered cell of panels with some actually multi hundred
million dollar venture of funding that’s promised to make the next generation
of nano engineered cell of panels competitive with fossil fields, but if you
go out 20 years, we have full scale electrical nano assembling, you can create
these very inexpensive, but powerful macro objects by reassembling that on
energy at the molecular level, using information massively powered information
processes to be able to create extremely inexpensive cellular panels and it is
very low cost capture where it will then be three parts in 10,000, with cell
of very tiny fraction of the sunlight. It is been shown that even a current
efficiency is we do only have to put solo panels on less than 1% of the lands
in United States, 30% is completely unused with things like desert, deserts
are actually very good for solo panels, we need to store the energy because of
the intermediacy of the sun, but nano engineered field cells will be hardly
decentralized solutions for that. There are dozen of other scenarios for being
able to meet our energy needs, even greatly expanded energy needs with these
nano technology and this is certainly not discussed in when people talk about
global warming, it is of these current trends are going to go on for hundreds
of years, completely ignoring these emerging technology, look at another way
right now, solar energy needs one part in a thousand of our energy needs.
Well, one part in a thousand that seems pretty trivial, it’s easy to dismiss,
it’s doubling every two years and has been will continue to do that based on
if you look at the business plans of these various companies doubling every
two years, is multiplied by a thousand in 20 years. I believe within 20 years
we will be replacing fossil fields with there information based nano
technology solutions.
Question 6: Your
predictions of the future are actually pretty optimistic I think in terms of
things will workout, I am curious – would you comment on obviously sensing
silicon or sensing computers and will we actually have nano technology that
improves humans to keep up with computers or all some point carbon base life
forms become obsolete?
Ray Kurzweil: Well, it
depends on how you define human, I do believe we are going to transcend our
biology, we are starting to do that. We are going to be adding non-biological
systems to out carbon based biological systems and there are people who have
already done that and in fact all of us who are putting it pretty close to our
bodies have augmented capabilities with our technology. One thing you should
take note of is that, the biological capabilities we have 10 of the 26 file
calculation for second among all human beings. 50 years from now, that’s going
to be 10 of the 26 powers, biological intelligence is fixed. The
non-biological intelligence is growing exponentially, it is we are adding
three zeros every decade and even that’s going to continue, so it is going to
actually show passed in the 2020 if you get to the 2030’s and 2040’s we are
going to be much more of a non-biological civilization than a biological one.
It is still in my mind human intelligence, this is the human technology
civilization, but ultimately that technological portion is growing, you could
say biological evolution is continuing, but it’s at a speed that’s thousands
of times slower than technological evolution. We ultimately will be more
non-biological than biological. Now, here that they go “I don’t want to become
mostly a machine”, because they are thinking of machines, like this machine
which is still millions of times simpler than the human being, it doesn’t have
that suttle and supple e saddle qualities of human intelligence, that’s really
the nature of my prediction, the nature of a machine is going on to go the
transformation is going to be quite different. So, in my mind we are going to
ultimately transcend our biology to subtitle in my life’s book is “When Human
Transcend Biology”, but we are not going to transcend our humanness we are
still going to be human, the silly human civilization even if we have a large
portion of our intelligence in non-biological form.
Question 7: Great I just
want to point out, over the past 4.5 billion years we have evolved to this
stage and then it still was accelerated over the last 7 million years,
although in the last 30,000 years or so, we have kind of slowed down our
evolution, instead we have an epigenetic evolution which basically is what you
have been talking about on a cultural basis. Now, given that emergence, you
have noted that in 2029 by then you predict we will have the reverse
engineering of neural circuitry, at what point do you think there may be the
igniting or the emergence of something like Gaya?
Ray Kurzweil: Well, first
of all biological evolution hasn’t stopped and even among human beings is
actually been genetic changes in the last thousand years which is interesting
side note, your point is well taken. Technological evolution is thousands and
ultimately it will be millions of times faster than biological evolution, if
Gaya you mean some kind of universal consciousness. If you take all human
beings today and we tie together with all these broadband and networking
applications there is an intelligence represented by all of that connected
intelligence. So, it’s a philosophical issues that how you regard that, but it
does have a personality and it is able to actually to find out information on
all these blogs interacting with each other. Each blog may be unreliable, but
the whole system actually can find out the truth involves in circumstances
pretty accurately. I think it is basically very democratizing force, although,
it certainly can’t be abused. In my first book in the 1980’s “The Age of
Intelligent Machines”, that the Soviet Union which was then going strong was
doomed because of these emerging decentralized electronic communication,
e-mail using these teletype machines and the fax machines where much more
powerful than the copiers they had been banning and that ultimately this would
destroy the Tele tank control and I think that’s what we saw in the coup
against Gorbachev in 1991. It wasn’t Yeltsin standing on a tank, that was
Fatwa that over turned that code, it was a clandestine network of
decentralized electronic communication. It had a big movement towards
democracies in the 1990’s, I mean these notable hold-outs and you can read
about them everyday in paper, but they are actually fairly few now. If you go
back a few decades where they were very few democracies and we had
democratization other levels with society. If you have a chronic disease and
you go to see your doctor, you are probably in touch with the people who have
that disease around the world and you keep in touch with latest research and
you go into your doctor armed with that information, so it changes the nature
of the relationship. So, there is a raising of consciousness through sharing
of information and knowledge.
Question 8: Yes, one of the
greatest advances for our civilization is this spreading of education and one
of our challenges today is the disparity between the qualities of education
with some folks receive versus other folks. They have been experiments and
trying to use technology to improve education, but research that I have seen,
indicates that it hasn’t really worked, it really need that human interaction
and I am just curious, if you have any insights or thoughts on why the
technology having people use computers, do take tests and so on and computers
respond and give them different questions, has that really been that effective
in raising the quality of education and if may be technology does in the
future have some solutions for raising the quality of education across the
board?
Ray Kurzweil: Well, it
depends what you mean by education? It include the whole learning experience
of children that deeply influenced by computers, networks and learned
tremendous amount, I see my own kids who have now had access to search engines
and all these knowledge out in the web and it has definitely transformed their
access to knowledge and the knowledge that they have been able to absorb. And
things like Telepresence and the whole virtual reality that’s emerging is
going to be very powerful, I am on the visiting committee of the MIT Media Lab
and we have this one laptop per child project and these are other competing
projects, but they hope to actually provide every kid in Africa with a very
powerful system device that is broadband enabled, will be able to communicate,
create all these communities with all the kids in Africa and around the world
with these ill devices they can create a motion picture, recorded albums,
software these can be very powerful devices and do Telepresence with educators
office, an educator in their language, somewhere they cannot communicate with
that person and it is going to able really accelerate in educational process.
There are lot of kids learning to read using computers, I mean I think there
is certain instructions does work in various areas. One of my committees has a
product for dyslexia kids that helps teaching to read and to be able to read
and tales, they go through the day. It has been deeply influential,
unfortunately our schools very often are lagging adopters of technology, we
don’t provide them the funding. So, they get the handy down, there are still
emerging schools with Apple tools, so it is a matter of priority. We do find
other areas of the world like for example, India and China are now – well take
China, produce 10,000 engineers per year, 20 years ago to 60,000, we are now
at about 53,000 and they have gone from 10,000 up to 300,000 a year and so
they are training more of their citizens to be scientifically literate. So,
there are issues there, but I think technology has been transformative.
Moderator: One more
question here it is.
Question 9: A sort of more
near term question that close to lot of us in the room, which is some also
made multi million dollar bet, some also thinking about making multi million
dollar bets on, do you need this fiber optics stuff to your home and all this
bandwidth going to be needed or do we all just wait until wireless comes
around and we don’t need any fiber in area or two in the actual specific home.
So, you can tell us, which technology probably to bet on, but it is do we need
this much bandwidth like we all believe we need or…
Ray Kurzweil: Well, first
of all I give one part of my response as a same advice I give to people that
come confused at what cell phone they should buy or what computer they,
because are concern they are going to buy something and this going to be
obsolete and if you wait for things to settle down, you will be waiting
forever and very important issue is to really research and adopt and consider
these trends which are quite predictable as to regarding the exponential
growth of communication computer technology. We bake these into our plans,
every six months part of our plan is a description of what will be feasible in
terms of all the enabling technologies, portable devices and broadband
communications, we have all description of the technology world at each point
in time and build our plan accordingly. It is very important to do that and it
is really surprising how many sophisticated companies don’t do that and don’t
really have a realistic notion of what will be feasible at different points in
time. So, if you have a five year plan, the world is going to change a lot in
all these dimensions and truly understand where we will be, but as far the
basic question, are we going to need more bandwidth? The answer is absolutely
yes. There is tremendous of benefits to virtual reality, Telepresence type
systems where you can be with someone else, as if you are together and create
these communities based on common need, whether it is education or sharing
your business information or social encounters, not be limited by geography.
Ultimately it is going to require to really be as if you are in together with
someone in a virtual environment it is going try tremendous bandwidth, but
tremendous bandwidth is coming and these applications are literally waiting
for the enabling technologies to make them feasible.
Thank you very
much.
1. Posted by: V S Rawat on May 17, 2007 2:15 AM:
Hi,
I have listened to some of your podcasts and apart content that is extremely informative and latest, the quality of audio is also superb, one of the best that I ever heard.
But I have a complaint.
I am having 64kbps net that would mean that your this podcast video of 233 MB size would take some 4 hours to download if I do not do any other net activity. That is too much for me.
I suggest that you extract audio from you podcasts and upload them also for us have-nots to download and listen to, even if couldn't see the video.
and if possible, please mention the size of each file next to each file so that we need not go ahead to download each one, one by one to know what size it is and how long a time it will take to download.
sorry that not yet commenting about this particular podcast because I am still downloading it. 4 hours. Remember.
thanks for well researched tech info that you are providing us about the technologies and gadgets.
Regards.
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V S Rawat
India