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New Tech Tuesday - 05/15/2007
Benjamin J. Higginbotham
New Technology Tuesday Podcast: New tech that is 5, 10 and 20+ years away. Where does humanity fit?

Make sure to join us tonight live at 10:00pm EDT, 9:00pm CDT, 7:00pm PDT (that's -0600 GMT for those around the world) right here on TechnologyEvangelist.com.


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Full Transcript:

Introducer: Technology Evangelist podcast for May 15th 2007, New Tech Tuesday. Recorded live with audience participation.


Benjamin Higginbotham: My name is Benjamin Higginbotham and with me is Cariann.


Cariann Higginbotham: This is going to be a good one.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Oh yeah. I like it already, its New Tech Tuesday, we’ve got viewers on Ustream.Tv as well as Talkshoe. Cariann you actually had an interesting topic and I think, we are going to talk about that one for a good chunk of the show today, so lets get started with that, tell me a little bit about that.


Cariann Higginbotham: I win, this is fun.


Benjamin Higginbotham: You are a weiner!


Cariann Higginbotham: I am a weiner! Ok honestly I don’t remember how I stumbled across this article and its one of those things where its on like a local news in, I don’t know where kind of thing but the article is all about how live stock may help treat human ailments and just the title alone got me interested, I was trying to figure out what was going on and I don’t even, there is almost no summarizing it but sort of in a very basic way, it talks about using trans genetic animals and using their DNA and integrating it with genetic information, so to create medicines for humans.


Benjamin Higginbotham: So we are injecting animal DNA into medicines that humans would then; or we in just, we are putting the animal DNA in to humans


Cariann Higginbotham: Yes, it’s sort of like trans genetic animals can be used to produce proteins and antibodies in their blood and their milk and then those animals can be used as subjects to better study human diseases, so its like, I don’t know, it sort of goes a little bit a both ways, it kind of goes with if they can produce something in an animal that can help a human, they may extract it from the animals and then give it to the humans, but it also goes the other way in which these huge animals that we have atendance to eat, at least us those that aren't vegan, to be now gigantic guinea pigs.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Now haven't we done this for a while and don’t we test a lot of this stuff on animals already.


Cariann Higginbotham: Not on cows, you are not give a cow cancer and be like hey lets see what happens here and PETA of course naturally is just freaking out about this, they are calling this Frankenstein science and let say it leads to a lot of deaths in laboratory animals, which is funny because a lot of these ailments lead to a lot of deaths in humans, so they are not concerned about that apparently.

 

Benjamin Higginbotham: All right. So the chat room is asking two things one so now people can get diseases only animals otherwise get, that’s kind of a concern. The other one is what is just have to do with technology well, don’t worry guest-430, this actually comes all way round full circle and I promise we are going to talk about technology in just one second but you need to get the intro primer here is to, the fundamental idea of getting this out there and the shift in mentality of this stuff is ok, and I don’t know that really in a time right now were everyone says, “Hey, yeah we can do that no problem”, I think there is lot of way.


Cariann Higginbotham: Right. I am not about to go out and say now really give me all the antibiotic blood from some sort of cow, I want it now because I think it may cure my cancer and I am not crazy like that but there is a lot of studies on it, its not like this is FDA approved already etc, this is going through that process for all the clinical trials and pre-clinical trials and bla bla bla … but the idea is to establish a safety and efficiency of Bio-Pharmaceuticals produced by using trans genetic animals. It’s just, it’s crazy, it’s so crazy to me.


Benjamin Higginbotham: The next part of this topic is that we were at the Killer App expo, and watch the Ray Kurzweil keynote presentation where he talked about a lot of this stuff, we we're doing this testing on animals and more specifically we are trying to modify their DNA and create nanotechnology, see I told you it will come back to technology, create nanotechnology that you would inject into your blood stream directly, we are not talking like large chips or anything like, well nano at that point, nanotechnology right.


Cariann Higginbotham: And like a blood clot, but smaller.


Benjamin Higginbotham: You are injecting into your blood and it can do different things, right now what they are working on are things like the ability to block fats, our bodies were designed to hold and maintain fats that if we want long period without food we would survive that’s no longer necessary.


Cariann Higginbotham: Where do I sign it for that program?


Benjamin Higginbotham: It's in testing right now, they are testing it on animals and they basically proven it to work and what we were doing and why this is really interesting is we’ve math out the human genome and we are finding different ways to now manipulate our own genes so that we can do things that we couldn’t do before, we’ve evolved beyond biology what we were given. And Kurzweil I think I pronouncing his name correctly, I certainly hope I am. Basically says we are going to become more machine than man very soon and we are not going to look like a Cyborg or Borg of sorts or any kind of sci-fi-tech.


Cariann Higginbotham: But if I could look like Seven of Nine 


Benjamin Higginbotham: Well.


Cariann Higginbotham: Can I just put that...


Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah you actually might be able to with this technology and this is where it got into a really really interesting discussion. Not guest-430 says that this is boing, and I think this is a facinating subject.

Cariann Higginbotham: I think its fairly fascinating, I think its crazy that, we as humans our life expectancy went anywhere from living only 13 years to living 113 years and that’s kind of ridiculous and we sort of our living the technology to keep us as alive that longer that makes any sense its we are not necessarily getting any healthier but we are living a lot longer so which is just confounding in a way.


Benjamin Higginbotham: This was an interesting stat that Ray brought up, which is, there is going to be a certain threshold where we will hit an age where we get more life back than we put into it, so and about he guestimates about 15 years from now more or so the human life will increase faster than it will decrease so if you can live about 15 more years and you might be off by a few years, but 15 more years, with the genetic research we are doing we will find ways to cure and fix a lot of these problems so you could in theory live indefinitely, we have even found some of the genes and what not that start the ageing process, so we can actually shut those down, now when will all these will not be approved, who knows but we think, now very accurately control the human body, he was talking about a really interesting experiment, where he can, not him, we can actually inject into your blood stream oxygen, oxygenated nano’s nanites and you can at that point sit under water for four hours straight and you would survive, you wouldn’t need to breath for the entire time.


Cariann Higginbotham: Brings the whole new meaning to let see Navyseals, brings a whole new meaning to in jail for life, I mean really.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Well guest 430 took 30 years for Microsoft to get windows not the blue screen and I was, I wuold argue that it still blue screens.


Cariann Higginbotham: I was just going to say "it doesn’t blue screen anymore?", does it black screen now?


Benjamin Higginbotham: I don’t think it really took 30 years for windows… but we get the point and it is, I do think that all of these technologies past but we are talking bleeding edge type stuff, we are not talking main, this is going to hit mainstream...


Cariann Higginbotham: I don't even think this is bleeding edge, you know when you get a really deep paper cut and you don’t quiet bleed yet and that’s when you know its really bad because you get it, you are like ow! and you look and go, oh crap, its not even bleeding yet, I think that’s where we are with this, and I know that’s kind of a corny way of putting it but honestly I think that’s where we are only when we think this is bleeding yet because you need to get enough people who are believing in the ideas that it can happen and are willing to work on it to make it happen.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Here's the thing with Ray, is that he is very good at predicting time lines, he is very scientific about it and he has been fairly accurate on everything that he says that he claimed and did it.


Cariann Higginbotham: I understand.


Benjamin Higginbotham: I mean he made a lot of compelling arguments and he showed time lines and why it will happen and what point and why will it happen now and not later and he has been a forefront image in this whole arena for quite sometime and when you hear him speak, he is a little monotone, a little bit but the information is absolutely astounding its absolutely incredible and when he is talking about what we can do and where we can go and how we can do all these fun stuff, it was really cool and what’s interesting is that actually starts with getting more bandwidth into the home now.


Cariann Higginbotham: That’s where it starts?


Benjamin Higginbotham: Absolutely because...


Cariann Higginbotham: Crazy. I figured it would start with, I want to pick the sex and look of my child.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Oh no, not quite like that, but where this starts and where we're able to start doing some of these great new things where we are getting the world smaller we are able to start envisioning these grand new ideas, now I understand the genome is different than bandwidth in the home but its kind of a trickle down process, where we need to have all these tools readily available to everyone, not just the scientist working on it, before we can really push forward on this.


Cariann Higginbotham: For sure. All of us are smarter than one of us.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah for guest 430 totally doesn’t believe that this will happen in our life time and may be right, may be wrong, but he made a very-very compelling arguments saying, you know what this is one going to happen and this is why its going to happen and this is how its going to happen and this wasn’t stuff where he is just making and upsaying we possibly think this may happen, he was basing this off of technology that they’ve already developed and are testing in animals…


Cariann Higginbotham: You know how to make circular arguments.


Benjamin Higginbotham: So it was, like I said, I thought it was intriguing stuff and we think about where we can go with this, we can modify and change whether two aspects to this.


Cariann Higginbotham: Absolutely.


Benjamin Higginbotham: One is the good side that we’ve been talking about which is we can ask, we can change our own DNA structure to suit our needs better, you know: stop storing this much fat, figure out some of these viruses and kill them before they start, fix heart problems and cancer and all the other fun jazz before it starts.


Cariann Higginbotham: Use the technology for good and not evil.


Benjamin Higginbotham: When then, there is the use the technology for evil side…you know what to say someone can create a super virus or something that is biologically, but you produce something that could cause a great deal of harm on a very massively huge scale and this was kind of the end part of the speech, taking this back notch bringing it back down is when he started talking about virtual reality rooms and virtual reality tours, because we had telepresence there.


Cariann Higginbotham: Awesome if you haven’t checked out telepresence you absolutely, positively must. It’s crazy, it’s slightly mind blowing as far as I am concerned because while we do have a cute little camera up there and you can hear us and watch us etc, may be you feel like you know us well enough that we would be sitting in your living room, with you chatting with you, tele presence is crazy insane like that person is there, you can make eye contact with them you can motion to them and they will see you, they can wave back to you, its crazy.


Benjamin Higginbotham: It’s like been in the room with them, but they are half way around the world.


Cariann Higginbotham: Absolutely but its virtual.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah absolutely its really cool. And the next step beyond that according to Ray is the ability to transmit this information directly into the retina of your eye, you are clipping on to your glasses.


Cariann Higginbotham: Matrix style?


Benjamin Higginbotham: Not quite they won’t be in the back of the head…directly into the retina of the eye and you can basically send the information directly to the brain and trick what it’s seeing, that’s the next stage after telepresence. I don’t think he really covered timeline on that so we could be 40 years out for that, I’ve no idea.


Cariann Higginbotham: Our great, great, great, great grand children will be doing that?

 

Benjamin Higginbotham: Yes something like that. And then the step after that is that you can actually inject a method of inhibiting certain parts of the brain and forcing it to grab on other data so essentially the concept was, you could inject telepresence into your brain, so you would say I want to be in New York now and your brain would put you there and all of your senses would think that’s where you are.


Cariann Higginbotham: Oh that *is* like the Matrix.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Yes, but there is no big thing going in the back of your head.

Cariann Higginbotham: I get it. Thank you.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Now what was interesting is that in this scenario, the audience kind of got little bit worried at that point because now he is talking about “Oo hey” if someone can if I can go anywhere else, was to prevent someone from making me go somewhere I don’t want to go, so this is going to, when this happens whenever that is, 10 years from now, 50 years, 100 years and 1000 years from now, we are going to have tocome up with rules and regulations to figure this all out.


Cariann Higginbotham: But this scary thing in there is also the rules and regulations you could end up like Gattaca, horrible movie, please don’t get me wrong but at the same time everything is so regimented and you check out someone’s DNA before you decide to have a relationship with them like that could get really creepy just in and of itself, besides any sort of someone trying to do wrong just having that big brother presence could be kind of nasty.


Benjamin Higginbotham: I should clarify something guest 430 said remember according to Ray we are never going to die and that’s not what he said, he said you can still die you could still be stabbed or whatever, and if you move past the threshold of whatever, it is still possible to die and we are still researching a lot of this stuff and trying to figure a lot of this stuff out, but based on technology he's seing today, and based on technology I mean he was showing it and giving examples and technical research papers and all that other fun jazz. Now, unfortunately he had to kind ofwhip through the presentation, he only had an hour and a half,  that is normally a three hour long presentation, but he likes that. He is on the forefront of this stuff, he owns a Teleport Tech presentation unit. For those who don’t know, a Teleport Tech presenter is basically a podium that will allow you, it is like virtual you and you put it up in a theater and it requires techie to set it up and whatnot, but once that’s all setup, it is as if you were there -ish. Not quite…


Cariann Higginbotham: Kind of like Elvis on American idol?


Benjamin Higginbotham: Kind of.


Cariann Higginbotham: No, I understand. That’s actually really cool.


Benjamin Higginbotham: It is not quite like that, it is still 2D, but the cool thing about the Teleport Tech system is that, he can go, because his speeches are quite high in demand, also because he is right about a lot of this stuff. Over the years, basically he will make predictions 20 years in the future and people will be like, “dude, you are crazy”, that’s not going to happen.


Cariann Higginbotham: When is he predicting that…


Benjamin Higginbotham: Back in the late 70s, he predicted in the mid to late 90s, the Internet was going to be this huge new commerce machine and everyone like “you're nuts”, because at that time, he was darpanet and was freaky – deeky slow…


Cariann Higginbotham: Darpanet.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Right, you couldn't do anything and it was basically a couple of trunks, but he could look at the growth of the darpanet, and see he didn’t know it was going to be call the Internet, but he could see where it was going and he makes a lot of these predictions and I don’t if all of them come true, but according to him a lot of them do.


Cariann Higginbotham: OK, well it is probably like 60-40 year and 70-30 kind of thing, but as long as it is the majority. I just want to know when he thinks that we are going to be able to sprout wings and fly ourselves.


Benjamin Higginbotham: I don’t know, would that be a modification of DNA at that point?


Cariann Higginbotham: Don’t you think?

 

Cariann Higginbotham: You can cross breed fruit.


Benjamin Higginbotham: OK.


Cariann Higginbotham: Well, I am just saying, you'd be like Tangelos.


Benjamin Higginbotham: So, you could cross breed me with an Angel, what is that?


Cariann Higginbotham: So, you could have like fowl-umans? Hu-wowls? I am not really sure.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Next topic, Cisco with their acquisition, I assume this is a part of acquisition of Scientific-Atlanta, which is going to be a brilliant acquisition, in my humble opinion.


Cariann Higginbotham: Really you think so?


Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, why don’t you think so? Let me clarify Scientific-Atlanta. They make the cable set-top boxes that you see in your cable company. They are the ones that are almost like a TiVo, but no one wants them because they are not TiVo and they are not nearly as good.


Cariann Higginbotham: I know what they are.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Well, I am letting everyone in the chat room now.


Cariann Higginbotham: And so Cisco is buying this?


Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, well they already bought it.


Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah...


Benjamin Higginbotham: And the rumors are at this point, that they are going to be releasing a brand new set-top box, that’s going to be big and cool and awesome. Now, here is where this gets really super cool. Cisco has a big huge push for Telepresence right now. You can see Telepresence in the show 24 a bunch of other places, you see the Cisco Telepresence commercials and what not, it is pretty awesome stuff. Now, take a camera or some sort of recording device and add it to a Scientific-Atlanta box, you have just enabled a very large number of people to, not quite Telepresence, but a video conference from anywhere. Now, once the Telepresence technology pushes itself down and are able to really modify and get those cameras behind the screens and really, really push it with a cool little periscope type things, you can stick on top of the screen, they work. You will be able to, from your home be anywhere in the world via a CISCO/Scientific-Atlanta box or a Telepresence like halo room or whatever you want to call.


Cariann Higginbotham: Can I pause it to?


Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, pause your Telepresence?


Cariann Higginbotham: Can I rewind, can I fastforward through the commercials?


Benjamin Higginbotham: Now, guest says there is a phone company has been showing Telepresence for years, you can telepresence with Ustream in a web page, no. Telepresence is as if you were there. The Telepresence is different than video conferencing. Video conferencing we have done for years. Video conferencing is not the same as Telepresence, they are totally different. Telepresence has life size people sitting right there in front of you in full High Def, you can see the full clarity and both sides are equal. Basically, what a Telepresence room is, as we take a room with a similar acoustics, lighting, and tables and chairs and everything. You slice it in half, you put one room on one side of the country and another room on the another side of the country and you merge them back together with a floor to ceiling, wall to wall screen and then display those people in real time. So, when I turn to the right, I look at Joe on my right, who isn’t really there, he is in Hong-Kong, he can see me looking at him making direct eye contact and I see him at life size as if he were sitting at the table, he sees me life size as aif I were sitting in the table; real time. That’s not video conferencing. This kind of video conferencing in 2.0, but it is very, very different in what we are actually used to from a video conferencing standpoint, where you have got these horrible microphones around the table, the lighting is awful, the cameras are moving and zooming and doing all this other weird stuff, it is totally different. The experience is much, much, much better.


Cariann Higginbotham: Thank you rev, that’s actually the question that I had, where is the connection to them buying Scientific-Atlanta and Telepresence?


Benjamin Higginbotham: OK, that’s a great question. Telepresence right now in Scientific-Atlanta is not going to happen, it is going to be more of a video conference at first, that’s going to have to be, because you not can be able to extend the room with Telepresence and the Scientific-Atlanta box, you can’t do it, at least not today, right? What we are going to see, what I believe we are going to see, I don’t have any proof of any of this right now, I am just going out there with my brain, right?


Cariann Higginbotham: You don’t have your Ray crystal ball?


Benjamin Higginbotham: No, not at all, but what we are seeing is different compositing technologies that are coming out, where can actually take a snap shot of the room and then recompose it in real time and remove the background, so it could essentially add you back in to the feed, we are seeing a lot more bandwidth into the home. So, we will start getting fiber into every home and we will start getting these newer technologies that can do real time HD compositing, H.264 and now I have got a 30 megabit upstream connection, that Scientific-Atlanta box which will be connected to that fiber, we will be able to reconnect to my halo Telepresence room or my Cisco Telepresence room and I will be one member in that room that which will composite me back in. Now, my side until I put that hugegantic tri-wall three 50 inch plasmas up there, probably not going to be the same. Although what’s to say that won’t eventually happen, what’s to say that we are not going to get that, just build the oLED's directly into a wall, why not? Why not just put the oLED's right into the wall or as you pick a technology that’s coming out, stick it right in the wall, make it life size, make it happen right then and there, why even hang a plasma anymore?


Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, that will be really cool. Kind of like with the 3M glass, they snaps to opaque, because of the electrical charge.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Yes.


Cariann Higginbotham: Just putting right into your regular quote unquote old school technology wall or a glass or…


Benjamin Higginbotham: Absolutely.


Cariann Higginbotham: That would be awesome.


Benjamin Higginbotham: And we are fiddling with this technology now, you can see some of it, like you can go to a sharper image or something like that, you can see the mirror with the video and it is not quite what I'm taking about. The fundamental concept is there.


Cariann Higginbotham: Interesting.


Benjamin Higginbotham: So, that’s where I think that’s going to be an interesting. Like I said, first just not going to be anything nearly close to that. At first it is probably just going to be video conferencing, sticking some cameras in there and utilizing the extra bandwidth that is going to into the home – keep in mind that a cable modem on the subnet, that’s usually gigabit between connections, so you can do some pretty cool stuff there. It’s once you get back to the, you go between the curb that’s a gigabit, then you go past that you are up to 512 kilobits per second, that’s not going to fly with this stuff. It needs to be a lot more bandwidth than that. Right now Telepresence starts at three T1 lines and while that’s not a whole lot, that’s worth four and half megabits per second upstream bandwidth, that’s a lot more than most connections and US can handle right now today. Not all, but most. Guest 430, saying that “Internet has too much latency, latency kills Telepresence over the Internet”.

Well keep in the mind they are doing Telepresence over the Internet today, so that can be done. So, you know…no. And then the bendable color screen might allow for something like that’s to be done properly. Bendable color screen, is that the e-paper that your are referring to, Mitchell. G? I am not sure what exact technology you are talking about. “Oh OK e- paper”. Possibly, I would like to see where e-paper is going to go. I have a Sony reader, it is not in the room with me right now and it's refreshes way too slow, it is of course black and white, but they have colored versions of it. My concern is that you need a really high refresh that’s 60 frames a second essentially, to make it natural, 24 definitely isn’t going to do it, 30 is pretty close, 64 is much closer to something that you can, it is really natural at that point in high-def standpoint and I don’t know that e-paper can go that fast, it may be able to in the future, who knows where that’s going to go. But I think the advantage of e-paper is that it so incredibly thin, that you can put it on any surface and bend it and mold it and do bunch of really cool things with that and no back lights, required, although – I think you may want one, I don’t know.


Cariann Higginbotham: You prolly want some sort of light?


Benjamin Higginbotham: Well but, why not front light it?


Cariann Higginbotham: Well, I guess.


Benjamin Higginbotham: I mean it, it's like paper.


Cariann Higginbotham: Right, I guess it is kind of depends on the effect that you are looking for.

 

Benjamin Higginbotham: Right, and Guest 430, still stuck on delay, keep in mind, I used to do that, I used to work for a company that did  R&D in this area, so absolutely, I have tried it over the Internet, it works extremely well, without standard of straight up Internet without any QOS on it and the delay is measured in milliseconds, it is not even a full second. So, absolutely it can be done, there is a delay, it is less than a second, it is less than standard satellites at this point, there is way less than digital satellites, so that’s where with delay right now, today without having to do anything else. That can be done on the Internet at this exact moment in time and you can do it on messenger as well, absolutely. So what technologies we are going to use to make all this merge together I don’t know, but imagine like I said, taking the compositing technology, we are starting to see the low, low, low end version of that in the Apple iChat product, where they can cutout the background, I think it looks, at least in the demos it doesn’t look very good, they got this halo around the arm, it is just looks atrocious, but alright fine, but at least the basic concept is there, which does then the real time encode to H.264, which is great. So, that technology is there, ready to go, doesn’t look very good, but that can always be tweaked and modified. Now, we need to have that camera to Scientific-Atlanta box, which is owned by Cisco, what is Cisco want more than anything in the world? Why would they push for any of this into the home? They want to sell more routers, that’s where the money is. They want to sell bigger, badder, hugegantic routers to these Internet companies to get the backbone going faster, because that’s where they make their money. They want to sell all these routers, they want to push more bandwidth and anything they can do to push more and more bandwidth, of course they are going to do it and part of that’s going to be starting this video conferencing at first, then next part of that’s going to be moving that to Telepresence doing the compositng and whatnot and just making the experience better and better and better and better. When this will happen? No idea.


Cariann Higginbotham: Any day now! That’s interesting. But, kind of what you are saying though is, it sounds like we are going to have meet in the middle somewhere, we are going to have to get all this fiber into the homes in general, but then this Telepresence stuff is gunna have to come down to the point where, may be when you do make a phone call to Auntie Mae over in Japan and I am in Tennessee, USA that I could have a Telepresence phone call in theory. But you have to get all that fiber into the home to start.


Benjamin Higginbotham: That’s where all starts, starts with fiber into the home, starts with making that all happen and that of course as I was preaching in some other show, was just on my soap box, pounding my hands on the table that starts with every person in the community going to their city and making sure that their mayor understands that is priority.


Cariann Higginbotham: Absolutely.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Because, if you don’t, the mayors and the city council members, they want to do the right thing, but many times they don’t know what that right thing is and they just need the techies, the geeks, the nerds, to go in and just to say, this is what you should do. This is the right technology to use and this is why you need to do it and just educate them, it is just as it don’t belittle or whatever, just let them know what’s going on and help them make the right move for your city, because every city is different. What’s right for one city may not be right for another city.


Cariann Higginbotham: Absolutely.


Benjamin Higginbotham: So, where do we go from here? What’s next?


Cariann Higginbotham: I don’t know, what is next?


Benjamin Higginbotham: I don’t know, what do you think is going to be the next technology other than the iPhone?


Cariann Higginbotham: The next technology?


Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah.


Cariann Higginbotham: I don’t know, there are so many different choices in general. I know that there is a bunch of things that I personally necessarily would like to see, but I know that there is a large community would like to see more affordable this or more high technical, who doesn’t want a cell phone with a really great camera on it, that doesn’t just do really great still camera or pictures, but can also do really great video and may be hold my music, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. I know you brought out the iPhone, don’t get me wrong, but who doesn’t want that for 100 bucks? And without having been roped into a 37 year contract with, so and so…


Benjamin Higginbotham: Well, that’s true, that’s the convergence device and I think we are going to see a lot more of that. There is going to be point where we converge too much, but I think there is different show.


Cariann Higginbotham: No, dude, I totally want to be able to order my groceries from my phone. I see no problems with that and in anyway shape or form.


Benjamin Higginbotham: May be you can, Simon delivers on your Treo 650.


Cariann Higginbotham: I should try that actually, see if I can figure that out and I want my refrigerator to clean itself, Stoves have been doing it forever, I don’t see why in my refrigerator can’t figure it out. That’s just me.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Refrigerators just don’t like change.


Cariann Higginbotham: Apparently.


Benjamin Higginbotham: Alright, that’s our show for New Tech Tuesday, for those of who listening or interested in Ray Kurzweil keynote presentation, we are going to be posting that a little bit later on today, which should be available on the Technology Evangelist website, it was a fascinating interview, while we normally take these interviews and cut them to about 15 minutes to make them little bit more manageable, we decided to keep his interview full. So, you are going to see it from beginning all the way to the end through Q&A. So, that’s an hour and twenty minutes and yes we are making that available all the way up to 1080p. I would suggest not 1080p, because most people can’t download that, but if you can awesome. If you got an Apple TV, what great content for an Apple TV, it is going to be a fun one as you probably have to do in chunks, I don’t know if you can be able to view all the once, I feel real excited about what he had to say, as I was and as many people in room are, may be you can, but it is a great, great keynote speech. I would highly suggest checking it out. That will be available at technologyevangelist.com, a little bit later today on Tuesday. Thank you so much for listening to us, tomorrow will be Web 2.0, yeah, that’s right. Web 2.0 Wednesday, we are going to have the Clipmarks’s CEO, Eric Goldstein. He is going to be on the show tomorrow, we are going to be highlighting his product on the show and you will be with us tomorrow as well, that’s at 10 eastern, 9 central, 7 pacific. Thank you so much for listening and will talk with you tomorrow.




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