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Introducer: Technology Evangelist podcast for May 15th 2007, New
Tech Tuesday. Recorded live with audience participation.
Benjamin Higginbotham: My name is Benjamin Higginbotham and with me is
Cariann.
Cariann Higginbotham: This is going to be a good one.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Oh yeah. I like it already, its New Tech Tuesday, we’ve
got viewers on Ustream.Tv as well as Talkshoe. Cariann you actually had an
interesting topic and I think, we are going to talk about that one for a good
chunk of the show today, so lets get started with that, tell me a little bit
about that.
Cariann Higginbotham: I win, this is fun.
Benjamin Higginbotham: You are a weiner!
Cariann Higginbotham: I am a weiner! Ok honestly I don’t remember how I
stumbled across this article and its one of those things where its on like a
local news in, I don’t know where kind of thing but the article is all about
how live stock may help treat human ailments and just the title alone got me
interested, I was trying to figure out what was going on and I don’t even,
there is almost no summarizing it but sort of in a very basic way, it talks
about using trans genetic animals and using their DNA and integrating it with
genetic information, so to create medicines for humans.
Benjamin Higginbotham: So we are injecting animal DNA into medicines that
humans would then; or we in just, we are putting the animal DNA in
to humans
Cariann Higginbotham: Yes, it’s sort of like trans genetic animals can be used
to produce proteins and antibodies in their blood and their milk and then
those animals can be used as subjects to better study human diseases, so its
like, I don’t know, it sort of goes a little bit a both ways, it
kind of goes with if they can produce something in an animal that can help a
human, they may extract it from the animals and then give it to the humans,
but it also goes the other way in which these huge animals that we have
atendance to eat, at least us those that aren't vegan, to be now gigantic
guinea pigs.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Now haven't we done this for a while and
don’t we test a lot of this stuff on animals already.
Cariann Higginbotham: Not on cows, you are not give a cow cancer and be like
hey lets see what happens here and PETA of course naturally is just freaking
out about this, they are calling this Frankenstein science and let say it
leads to a lot of deaths in laboratory animals, which is funny because a lot
of these ailments lead to a lot of deaths in humans, so they are not concerned
about that apparently.
Benjamin Higginbotham: All right. So the chat room is asking two things one so
now people can get diseases only animals otherwise get, that’s kind of a
concern. The other one is what is just have to do with technology well, don’t
worry guest-430, this actually comes all way round full circle and I promise
we are going to talk about technology in just one second but you need to get
the intro primer here is to, the fundamental idea of getting this out there
and the shift in mentality of this stuff is ok, and I don’t know that really
in a time right now were everyone says, “Hey, yeah we can do that no problem”,
I think there is lot of way.
Cariann Higginbotham: Right. I am not about to go out and say now really give
me all the antibiotic blood from some sort of cow, I want it now because I
think it may cure my cancer and I am not crazy like that but there is a lot of
studies on it, its not like this is FDA approved already etc, this is going
through that process for all the clinical trials and pre-clinical trials and
bla bla bla … but the idea is to establish a safety and efficiency of
Bio-Pharmaceuticals produced by using trans genetic animals. It’s just, it’s
crazy, it’s so crazy to me.
Benjamin Higginbotham: The next part of this topic is that we were at the
Killer App expo, and watch the Ray Kurzweil keynote presentation where he
talked about a lot of this stuff, we we're doing this testing on animals and
more specifically we are trying to modify their DNA and create nanotechnology,
see I told you it will come back to technology, create nanotechnology that you
would inject into your blood stream directly, we are not talking like large
chips or anything like, well nano at that point, nanotechnology right.
Cariann Higginbotham: And like a blood clot, but smaller.
Benjamin Higginbotham: You are injecting into your blood and it can do
different things, right now what they are working on are things like the
ability to block fats, our bodies were designed to hold and maintain fats that
if we want long period without food we would survive that’s no longer
necessary.
Cariann Higginbotham: Where do I sign it for that program?
Benjamin Higginbotham: It's in testing right now, they are testing it on
animals and they basically proven it to work and what we were doing and why
this is really interesting is we’ve math out the human genome and we are
finding different ways to now manipulate our own genes so that we can do
things that we couldn’t do before, we’ve evolved beyond biology what we were
given. And Kurzweil I think I pronouncing his name correctly, I certainly hope
I am. Basically says we are going to become more machine than man very soon
and we are not going to look like a Cyborg or Borg of sorts or any kind
of sci-fi-tech.
Cariann Higginbotham: But if I could look like Seven of Nine
Benjamin Higginbotham: Well.
Cariann Higginbotham: Can I just put that...
Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah you actually might be able to with this technology
and this is where it got into a really really interesting discussion. Not
guest-430 says that this is boing, and I think this is a facinating subject.
Cariann Higginbotham: I think its fairly fascinating, I think its crazy that,
we as humans our life expectancy went anywhere from living only 13 years to
living 113 years and that’s kind of ridiculous and we sort of our living the
technology to keep us as alive that longer that makes any sense its we are not
necessarily getting any healthier but we are living a lot longer so which
is just confounding in a way.
Benjamin Higginbotham: This was an interesting stat that Ray brought up, which
is, there is going to be a certain threshold where we will hit an age where we
get more life back than we put into it, so and about he guestimates about 15
years from now more or so the human life will increase faster than it will
decrease so if you can live about 15 more years and you might be off by a
few years, but 15 more years, with the genetic research we are doing we
will find ways to cure and fix a lot of these problems so you could in theory
live indefinitely, we have even found some of the genes and what not that
start the ageing process, so we can actually shut those down, now when will
all these will not be approved, who knows but we think, now very
accurately control the human body, he was talking about a really interesting
experiment, where he can, not him, we can actually inject into your blood
stream oxygen, oxygenated nano’s nanites and you can at that point sit under
water for four hours straight and you would survive, you wouldn’t need to
breath for the entire time.
Cariann Higginbotham: Brings the whole new meaning to let see Navyseals,
brings a whole new meaning to in jail for life, I mean really.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Well guest 430 took 30 years for Microsoft to get
windows not the blue screen and I was, I wuold argue that it still
blue screens.
Cariann Higginbotham: I was just going to say "it doesn’t blue screen
anymore?", does it black screen now?
Benjamin Higginbotham: I don’t think it really took 30 years for windows… but
we get the point and it is, I do think that all of these technologies past but
we are talking bleeding edge type stuff, we are not talking main, this is
going to hit mainstream...
Cariann Higginbotham: I don't even think this is bleeding edge,
you know when you get a really deep paper cut and you don’t quiet
bleed yet and that’s when you know its really bad because you get it, you are
like ow! and you look and go, oh crap, its not even bleeding yet, I think
that’s where we are with this, and I know that’s kind of a corny way of
putting it but honestly I think that’s where we are only when we think this is
bleeding yet because you need to get enough people who are believing in the
ideas that it can happen and are willing to work on it to make it happen.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Here's the thing with Ray, is that he is very
good at predicting time lines, he is very scientific about it and he has been
fairly accurate on everything that he says that he claimed and did it.
Cariann Higginbotham: I understand.
Benjamin Higginbotham: I mean he made a lot of compelling arguments and he
showed time lines and why it will happen and what point and why will it happen
now and not later and he has been a forefront image in this whole
arena for quite sometime and when you hear him speak, he is a little monotone,
a little bit but the information is absolutely astounding its absolutely
incredible and when he is talking about what we can do and where we can go and
how we can do all these fun stuff, it was really cool and what’s interesting
is that actually starts with getting more bandwidth into the home now.
Cariann Higginbotham: That’s where it starts?
Benjamin Higginbotham: Absolutely because...
Cariann Higginbotham: Crazy. I figured it would start with, I want to pick the
sex and look of my child.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Oh no, not quite like that, but where this starts and
where we're able to start doing some of these great new things where we are
getting the world smaller we are able to start envisioning these grand new
ideas, now I understand the genome is different than bandwidth in the
home but its kind of a trickle down process, where we need to have all these
tools readily available to everyone, not just the scientist working on it,
before we can really push forward on this.
Cariann Higginbotham: For sure. All of us are smarter than one of us.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah for guest 430 totally doesn’t believe that this
will happen in our life time and may be right, may be wrong, but he made a
very-very compelling arguments saying, you know what this is one going to
happen and this is why its going to happen and this is how its going to happen
and this wasn’t stuff where he is just making and upsaying we possibly think
this may happen, he was basing this off of technology that they’ve
already developed and are testing in animals…
Cariann Higginbotham: You know how to make circular arguments.
Benjamin Higginbotham: So it was, like I said, I thought it was intriguing
stuff and we think about where we can go with this, we can modify and change
whether two aspects to this.
Cariann Higginbotham: Absolutely.
Benjamin Higginbotham: One is the good side that we’ve been talking about
which is we can ask, we can change our own DNA structure to suit our needs
better, you know: stop storing this much fat, figure out some of
these viruses and kill them before they start, fix heart problems and cancer
and all the other fun jazz before it starts.
Cariann Higginbotham: Use the technology for good and not evil.
Benjamin Higginbotham: When then, there is the use the technology for evil
side…you know what to say someone can create a super virus or something that
is biologically, but you produce something that could cause a great deal of
harm on a very massively huge scale and this was kind of the end part of the
speech, taking this back notch bringing it back down is when he started
talking about virtual reality rooms and virtual reality tours, because we had
telepresence there.
Cariann Higginbotham: Awesome if you haven’t checked out telepresence you
absolutely, positively must. It’s crazy, it’s slightly mind blowing as far as
I am concerned because while we do have a cute little camera up there and you
can hear us and watch us etc, may be you feel like you know us well enough
that we would be sitting in your living room, with you chatting with you, tele
presence is crazy insane like that person is there, you can make eye contact
with them you can motion to them and they will see you, they can wave back to
you, its crazy.
Benjamin Higginbotham: It’s like been in the room with them, but they are half
way around the world.
Cariann Higginbotham: Absolutely but its virtual.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah absolutely its really cool. And the next step
beyond that according to Ray is the ability to transmit this information
directly into the retina of your eye, you are clipping on to your glasses.
Cariann Higginbotham: Matrix style?
Benjamin Higginbotham: Not quite they won’t be in the back of the
head…directly into the retina of the eye and you can basically send the
information directly to the brain and trick what it’s seeing, that’s the next
stage after telepresence. I don’t think he really covered timeline on
that so we could be 40 years out for that, I’ve no idea.
Cariann Higginbotham: Our great, great, great, great grand children will
be doing that?
Benjamin Higginbotham: Yes something like that. And then the step after that
is that you can actually inject a method of inhibiting certain parts of the
brain and forcing it to grab on other data so essentially the concept was, you
could inject telepresence into your brain, so you would say I want to be in
New York now and your brain would put you there and all of your senses would
think that’s where you are.
Cariann Higginbotham: Oh that *is* like the Matrix.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Yes, but there is no big thing going in the back of
your head.
Cariann Higginbotham: I get it. Thank you.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Now what was interesting is that in this scenario, the
audience kind of got little bit worried at that point because now he is
talking about “Oo hey” if someone can if I can go anywhere else, was to
prevent someone from making me go somewhere I don’t want to go, so this is
going to, when this happens whenever that is, 10 years from now, 50
years, 100 years and 1000 years from now, we are going to have tocome up with
rules and regulations to figure this all out.
Cariann Higginbotham: But this scary thing in there is also the rules and
regulations you could end up like Gattaca, horrible movie, please don’t
get me wrong but at the same time everything is so regimented and you check
out someone’s DNA before you decide to have a relationship with them like that
could get really creepy just in and of itself, besides any sort of someone
trying to do wrong just having that big brother presence could be kind of
nasty.
Benjamin Higginbotham: I should clarify something guest 430 said remember
according to Ray we are never going to die and that’s not what he said, he
said you can still die you could still be stabbed or whatever, and if you move
past the threshold of whatever, it is still possible to die and we are still
researching a lot of this stuff and trying to figure a lot of this stuff out,
but based on technology he's seing today, and based on technology I mean he
was showing it and giving examples and technical research papers and all that
other fun jazz. Now, unfortunately he had to kind ofwhip through the
presentation, he only had an hour and a half, that is normally
a three hour long presentation, but he likes that. He is on the forefront of
this stuff, he owns a Teleport Tech presentation unit. For those who don’t
know, a Teleport Tech presenter is basically a podium that will allow you, it
is like virtual you and you put it up in a theater and it requires techie to
set it up and whatnot, but once that’s all setup, it is as if you were there
-ish. Not quite…
Cariann Higginbotham: Kind of like Elvis on American idol?
Benjamin Higginbotham: Kind of.
Cariann Higginbotham: No, I understand. That’s actually really cool.
Benjamin Higginbotham: It is not quite like that, it is still 2D, but the cool
thing about the Teleport Tech system is that, he can go, because his speeches
are quite high in demand, also because he is right about a lot of this stuff.
Over the years, basically he will make predictions 20 years in the future and
people will be like, “dude, you are crazy”, that’s not going to happen.
Cariann Higginbotham: When is he predicting that…
Benjamin Higginbotham: Back in the late 70s, he predicted in the mid to
late 90s, the Internet was going to be this huge new commerce machine and
everyone like “you're nuts”, because at that time, he was darpanet
and was freaky – deeky slow…
Cariann Higginbotham: Darpanet.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Right, you couldn't do anything and it was basically a
couple of trunks, but he could look at the growth of the darpanet, and see he
didn’t know it was going to be call the Internet, but he could see where
it was going and he makes a lot of these predictions and I don’t if all
of them come true, but according to him a lot of them do.
Cariann Higginbotham: OK, well it is probably like 60-40 year and 70-30 kind
of thing, but as long as it is the majority. I just want to know when he
thinks that we are going to be able to sprout wings and fly ourselves.
Benjamin Higginbotham: I don’t know, would that be a modification of DNA at
that point?
Cariann Higginbotham: Don’t you think?
Cariann Higginbotham: You can cross breed fruit.
Benjamin Higginbotham: OK.
Cariann Higginbotham: Well, I am just saying, you'd be like Tangelos.
Benjamin Higginbotham: So, you could cross breed me with an Angel, what is
that?
Cariann Higginbotham: So, you could have like fowl-umans? Hu-wowls? I am not
really sure.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Next topic, Cisco with their acquisition, I assume this
is a part of acquisition of Scientific-Atlanta, which is going to be a
brilliant acquisition, in my humble opinion.
Cariann Higginbotham: Really you think so?
Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, why don’t you think so? Let me clarify
Scientific-Atlanta. They make the cable set-top boxes that you see in your
cable company. They are the ones that are almost like a TiVo, but no one wants
them because they are not TiVo and they are not nearly as good.
Cariann Higginbotham: I know what they are.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Well, I am letting everyone in the chat room now.
Cariann Higginbotham: And so Cisco is buying this?
Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, well they already bought it.
Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah...
Benjamin Higginbotham: And the rumors are at this point, that they are going
to be releasing a brand new set-top box, that’s going to be big and cool and
awesome. Now, here is where this gets really super cool. Cisco has a big huge
push for Telepresence right now. You can see Telepresence in the show 24 a
bunch of other places, you see the Cisco Telepresence commercials and what
not, it is pretty awesome stuff. Now, take a camera or some sort of recording
device and add it to a Scientific-Atlanta box, you have just enabled a very
large number of people to, not quite Telepresence, but a video conference from
anywhere. Now, once the Telepresence technology pushes itself down and are
able to really modify and get those cameras behind the screens and really,
really push it with a cool little periscope type things, you can stick on top
of the screen, they work. You will be able to, from your home be anywhere in
the world via a CISCO/Scientific-Atlanta box or a Telepresence like halo room
or whatever you want to call.
Cariann Higginbotham: Can I pause it to?
Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, pause your Telepresence?
Cariann Higginbotham: Can I rewind, can I fastforward through the commercials?
Benjamin Higginbotham: Now, guest says there is a phone company has been
showing Telepresence for years, you can telepresence with Ustream in
a web page, no. Telepresence is as if you were there. The Telepresence is
different than video conferencing. Video conferencing we have done for years.
Video conferencing is not the same as Telepresence, they are totally
different. Telepresence has life size people sitting right there in front of
you in full High Def, you can see the full clarity and both sides are equal.
Basically, what a Telepresence room is, as we take a room with a similar
acoustics, lighting, and tables and chairs and everything. You slice it in
half, you put one room on one side of the country and another room on the
another side of the country and you merge them back together with a floor to
ceiling, wall to wall screen and then display those people in real time. So,
when I turn to the right, I look at Joe on my right, who isn’t really there,
he is in Hong-Kong, he can see me looking at him making direct eye contact and
I see him at life size as if he were sitting at the table, he sees
me life size as aif I were sitting in the table; real time. That’s not
video conferencing. This kind of video conferencing in 2.0, but it is very,
very different in what we are actually used to from a video
conferencing standpoint, where you have got these horrible microphones around
the table, the lighting is awful, the cameras are moving and zooming and doing
all this other weird stuff, it is totally different. The experience is much,
much, much better.
Cariann Higginbotham: Thank you rev, that’s actually the question
that I had, where is the connection to them buying Scientific-Atlanta and
Telepresence?
Benjamin Higginbotham: OK, that’s a great question. Telepresence right now in
Scientific-Atlanta is not going to happen, it is going to be more of a video
conference at first, that’s going to have to be, because you not can be able
to extend the room with Telepresence and the Scientific-Atlanta box, you can’t
do it, at least not today, right? What we are going to see, what I believe we
are going to see, I don’t have any proof of any of this right now, I am
just going out there with my brain, right?
Cariann Higginbotham: You don’t have your Ray crystal ball?
Benjamin Higginbotham: No, not at all, but what we are seeing is different
compositing technologies that are coming out, where can actually take a snap
shot of the room and then recompose it in real time and remove the background,
so it could essentially add you back in to the feed, we are seeing a lot
more bandwidth into the home. So, we will start getting fiber into every home
and we will start getting these newer technologies that can do real time HD
compositing, H.264 and now I have got a 30 megabit upstream connection, that
Scientific-Atlanta box which will be connected to that fiber, we will be able
to reconnect to my halo Telepresence room or my Cisco Telepresence room and I
will be one member in that room that which will composite me back in. Now, my
side until I put that hugegantic tri-wall three 50 inch plasmas up there,
probably not going to be the same. Although what’s to say that won’t
eventually happen, what’s to say that we are not going to get that, just build
the oLED's directly into a wall, why not? Why not just put the oLED's
right into the wall or as you pick a technology that’s coming out, stick it
right in the wall, make it life size, make it happen right then and there, why
even hang a plasma anymore?
Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, that will be really cool. Kind of like with the 3M
glass, they snaps to opaque, because of the electrical charge.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Yes.
Cariann Higginbotham: Just putting right into your regular quote unquote old
school technology wall or a glass or…
Benjamin Higginbotham: Absolutely.
Cariann Higginbotham: That would be awesome.
Benjamin Higginbotham: And we are fiddling with this technology now, you can
see some of it, like you can go to a sharper image or something like that, you
can see the mirror with the video and it is not quite what I'm
taking about. The fundamental concept is there.
Cariann Higginbotham: Interesting.
Benjamin Higginbotham: So, that’s where I think that’s going to be an
interesting. Like I said, first just not going to be anything nearly close to
that. At first it is probably just going to be video conferencing, sticking
some cameras in there and utilizing the extra bandwidth that
is going to into the home – keep in mind that a cable modem on the
subnet, that’s usually gigabit between connections, so you can do some pretty
cool stuff there. It’s once you get back to the, you go between the curb
that’s a gigabit, then you go past that you are up to 512 kilobits
per second, that’s not going to fly with this stuff. It needs to be a lot more
bandwidth than that. Right now Telepresence starts at three T1 lines
and while that’s not a whole lot, that’s worth four and half megabits per
second upstream bandwidth, that’s a lot more than most connections and US can
handle right now today. Not all, but most. Guest 430, saying that “Internet
has too much latency, latency kills Telepresence over the Internet”.
Well keep in the mind they are doing Telepresence over the Internet today, so
that can be done. So, you know…no. And then the bendable color screen might
allow for something like that’s to be done properly. Bendable color screen, is
that the e-paper that your are referring to, Mitchell. G? I am not sure what
exact technology you are talking about. “Oh OK e- paper”. Possibly, I would
like to see where e-paper is going to go. I have a Sony reader, it is not in
the room with me right now and it's refreshes way too slow, it is of course
black and white, but they have colored versions of it. My concern is that you
need a really high refresh that’s 60 frames a second essentially, to make it
natural, 24 definitely isn’t going to do it, 30 is pretty close, 64 is much
closer to something that you can, it is really natural at that point in
high-def standpoint and I don’t know that e-paper can go that fast, it may be
able to in the future, who knows where that’s going to go. But I think
the advantage of e-paper is that it so incredibly thin, that you can put it on
any surface and bend it and mold it and do bunch of really cool things with
that and no back lights, required, although – I think you may want one, I
don’t know.
Cariann Higginbotham: You prolly want some sort of light?
Benjamin Higginbotham: Well but, why not front light it?
Cariann Higginbotham: Well, I guess.
Benjamin Higginbotham: I mean it, it's like paper.
Cariann Higginbotham: Right, I guess it is kind of depends on the effect that
you are looking for.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Right, and Guest 430, still stuck on delay, keep in
mind, I used to do that, I used to work for a company that did R&D
in this area, so absolutely, I have tried it over the Internet, it works
extremely well, without standard of straight up Internet without any QOS on it
and the delay is measured in milliseconds, it is not even a full second. So,
absolutely it can be done, there is a delay, it is less than a second, it is
less than standard satellites at this point, there is way less than digital
satellites, so that’s where with delay right now, today without having to do
anything else. That can be done on the Internet at this exact moment in time
and you can do it on messenger as well, absolutely. So what technologies we
are going to use to make all this merge together I don’t know, but imagine
like I said, taking the compositing technology, we are starting to see the
low, low, low end version of that in the Apple iChat product, where they can
cutout the background, I think it looks, at least in the demos it doesn’t look
very good, they got this halo around the arm, it is just looks atrocious, but
alright fine, but at least the basic concept is there, which does then the
real time encode to H.264, which is great. So, that technology is there, ready
to go, doesn’t look very good, but that can always be tweaked and modified.
Now, we need to have that camera to Scientific-Atlanta box, which is owned by
Cisco, what is Cisco want more than anything in the world? Why would they push
for any of this into the home? They want to sell more routers, that’s where
the money is. They want to sell bigger, badder, hugegantic routers to these
Internet companies to get the backbone going faster, because that’s where they
make their money. They want to sell all these routers, they want to push more
bandwidth and anything they can do to push more and more bandwidth, of course
they are going to do it and part of that’s going to be starting this video
conferencing at first, then next part of that’s going to be moving that to
Telepresence doing the compositng and whatnot and just making the experience
better and better and better and better. When this will happen? No idea.
Cariann Higginbotham: Any day now! That’s interesting. But, kind of what
you are saying though is, it sounds like we are going to have meet in the
middle somewhere, we are going to have to get all this fiber into the homes in
general, but then this Telepresence stuff is gunna have to come down to the
point where, may be when you do make a phone call to Auntie Mae over in Japan
and I am in Tennessee, USA that I could have a Telepresence phone call in
theory. But you have to get all that fiber into the home to start.
Benjamin Higginbotham: That’s where all starts, starts with fiber into the
home, starts with making that all happen and that of course as I was preaching
in some other show, was just on my soap box, pounding my hands on the table
that starts with every person in the community going to their city and making
sure that their mayor understands that is priority.
Cariann Higginbotham: Absolutely.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Because, if you don’t, the mayors and the city council
members, they want to do the right thing, but many times they don’t know what
that right thing is and they just need the techies, the geeks, the nerds, to
go in and just to say, this is what you should do. This is the right
technology to use and this is why you need to do it and just educate them, it
is just as it don’t belittle or whatever, just let them know what’s going on
and help them make the right move for your city, because every city is
different. What’s right for one city may not be right for another city.
Cariann Higginbotham: Absolutely.
Benjamin Higginbotham: So, where do we go from here? What’s next?
Cariann Higginbotham: I don’t know, what is next?
Benjamin Higginbotham: I don’t know, what do you think is going to be the next
technology other than the iPhone?
Cariann Higginbotham: The next technology?
Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah.
Cariann Higginbotham: I don’t know, there are so many different choices in
general. I know that there is a bunch of things that I personally necessarily
would like to see, but I know that there is a large community would like to
see more affordable this or more high technical, who doesn’t want a cell phone
with a really great camera on it, that doesn’t just do really great still
camera or pictures, but can also do really great video and may be hold my
music, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. I know you brought out the iPhone, don’t
get me wrong, but who doesn’t want that for 100 bucks? And without having
been roped into a 37 year contract with, so and so…
Benjamin Higginbotham: Well, that’s true, that’s the convergence device and I
think we are going to see a lot more of that. There is going to be point where
we converge too much, but I think there is different show.
Cariann Higginbotham: No, dude, I totally want to be able to order my
groceries from my phone. I see no problems with that and in anyway shape or
form.
Benjamin Higginbotham: May be you can, Simon delivers on your Treo 650.
Cariann Higginbotham: I should try that actually, see if I can figure that out
and I want my refrigerator to clean itself, Stoves have been doing it forever,
I don’t see why in my refrigerator can’t figure it out. That’s just me.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Refrigerators just don’t like change.
Cariann Higginbotham: Apparently.
Benjamin Higginbotham: Alright, that’s our show for New Tech Tuesday, for
those of who listening or interested in Ray Kurzweil keynote
presentation, we are going to be posting that a little bit later on today,
which should be available on the Technology Evangelist website, it was a
fascinating interview, while we normally take these interviews and cut them to
about 15 minutes to make them little bit more manageable, we decided to keep
his interview full. So, you are going to see it from beginning all the way to
the end through Q&A. So, that’s an hour and twenty minutes and yes we are
making that available all the way up to 1080p. I would suggest not 1080p,
because most people can’t download that, but if you can awesome. If you got an
Apple TV, what great content for an Apple TV, it is going to be a fun one as
you probably have to do in chunks, I don’t know if you can be able to view all
the once, I feel real excited about what he had to say, as I was and as many
people in room are, may be you can, but it is a great, great keynote speech. I
would highly suggest checking it out. That will be available at
technologyevangelist.com, a little bit later today on Tuesday. Thank you so
much for listening to us, tomorrow will be Web 2.0, yeah, that’s right. Web
2.0 Wednesday, we are going to have the Clipmarks’s CEO, Eric Goldstein. He is
going to be on the show tomorrow, we are going to be highlighting his product
on the show and you will be with us tomorrow as well, that’s at 10
eastern, 9 central, 7 pacific. Thank you so much for listening and will
talk with you tomorrow.