BlueFox: Hi, I am BlueFox and you are listening to the Technology Evangelist Podcast for Thursday June 14, 2007. That’s quite foxy!

Cariann Higginbotham: Recorded live with audience participation.

Benjamin Higginbotham: BlueFox, welcome to the show.

BlueFox: Hey, how is it going?

Benjamin Higginbotham: My name is Benjamin Higginbotham, we got BlueFox, joining and sitting with me live is Cariann and Kay

Cariann Higginbotham: That’s weird, jam packed, how did

Benjamin Higginbotham: I have no idea. BlueFox, give us a plug for

BlueFox: Perhaps you can see me over Ustream.tv/BlueFox.tv or you can go to bluefoxonline.com that should be setup very soon.

Benjamin Higginbotham: So, what you do on Ustream?

BlueFox: Perhaps I focus on design work, so anything from web design to logo types, corporate design anything like that really.

Benjamin Higginbotham: How do you show that in Ustream?

BlueFox: Really I use a program called Webcam Max and I portray through picture-in-picture on what a design can look like, what type of feel you are going for, things like that.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Do you help other users with the process of doing creative graphic designer, you are just like look all the cool stuff I can do?

BlueFox: Some of the times it is mostly just I, “look at this, look at that, here is I can do this”, but whenever someone ask a question I always make sure to answer them, so…

Benjamin Higginbotham: Awesome, all right let’s get straight into the show, Cariann this is your show I believe you created all the topics. Actually this was the girl’s show earlier today.

Kay: This is the girl’s show.

Cariann Higginbotham: Exactly, because

Benjamin Higginbotham: Let’s get straight into it, YouTube develops video identification technology?

Cariann Higginbotham: Yes.

Benjamin Higginbotham: That’s actually a little bit of an older news. I know that they have this under development for quite a while, they have actually released it yet, or it just sitting there still?

Cariann Higginbotham: It is just sitting there still, sorry.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Well, is there any new news here what’s going on with the video identification.

Cariann Higginbotham: Honestly it was something I hadn’t heard of yet, so I was really excited about it, because it seems like something that they have been needing to do, I don’t know forever in a day. So, I was like “hey, that’s really cool”, they actually will be testing it, I believe in a month, it says. So…

Benjamin Higginbotham: Well, let’s find? May be not everyone knows what this is? So, once you define what’s going on with the video identification technology?

Cariann Higginbotham: Now that I feel stupid, perhaps…

Benjamin Higginbotham: No, no.

Kay: We know that already.

Cariann Higginbotham: OK.

Benjamin Higginbotham: We need to remember that I work in the media and I am passionate about this, so I keep up-to-date a lot with what’s going on in new media. I might me one of the twelve people on the planet that knows this. So, may be there are, but I have no idea…

Kay: As busily what you are saying is “boys one, girls zero?”

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, no joke.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, basically in a….

BlueFox: I have no idea actually about this at all. So, I would like to know?

Kay: Thank you.

Cariann Higginbotham: Thank you, YouTube is testing video fingerprinting technology that they are hoping will help prevent people posting content without the owners consent, if that make any sense? It is I don’t really know how else to explain it other than sort of like having the security tags in dollar bills or the extra cute little typing on the dollar bill that sort of thing, so track where it came from, so that when somebody grabs a video or grabs the video of Ben doing the studio walkthrough, that they don’t enter in other different words that he didn’t say or slices of fight club or anything in the middle like that we wouldn’t agree with, that we will be able to say “no, that is my content, nobody else has reason to touch it, nobody else has license to touch it and I want so and so taken off?” So, I thought that was really cool and I thought that was really nice, because I am sure there are lot of people out there who are actually trying to do something with their videos and there is probably other people out there who are like “sweet, they did a really neat job, let me screw with that”.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Green Steve zoomer in the chat room brought us some interesting points. It is like DRM and he wonder if it is like the yellow dots on laser printers and how will it work? Well, it is like DRM, DRM is a media protection method, it is an open term for locking down media. iTunes songs are that you purchase of the iTunes music store they are DRM locked, window media files can be DRM locked, that’s basically what prevents you from moving it to another system or doing permissions on the file that, either say “you can use it this way, you can use it that way, so forth and so on” and lot of people try to break DRM, it is what people, it is a love/hate relationship and it is Eyeits points on the chat room “it is digital rights management”, it is what stands for.

Cariann Higginbotham: DRM.

Benjamin Higginbotham: I think would fall under classification of DRM, but it is little bit different that how you traditionally think of DRM, where you usually think of DRM as you download the file then I have the right to do X with this file, whatever that right may be. Whereas this is more, I upload the file and YouTube says “no, I don’t think so, this has copyright attached to” we can tell from and then whatever algorithm they are using to tell if there is copyright attached to it. So, Steve is wondering if there is watermarking or as Steve mentioned earlier the yellow dots for laser printers, not lot of people know there is yellow dot you can tell what printer this stuff came off, it is like a watermarking technique. I have assume, I don’t actually know exactly how they are doing it, I don’t think they are give out their secret sauce, because then people are going to try to abuse it, but I have assume it is a combination of different technologies, voice recognition, analyzing the image looking for the bugs and logos. If you seen ABC bug in the shot, you probably going to assume this is done from ABC or it was on ABC station, you may want to immediately reject it, different things to do, but then of course people know how it is done, easy way to get around there, you put a black box over the ABC logo.

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, I suppose, but still I just thought it was really interesting and was something I hadn’t heard of before and I thought that something that is very useful, especially people like us who are a little bit on the Indy side of things, but we make videos, we have podcasts and things like that and we probably are not going to want somebody taking our stuff and then slicing and…

Benjamin Higginbotham: Actually for the videos we have right now, the opposite is actually true. We do license under creative comments, we basically say we just want attribution, but you can do whatever you want with it.

Cariann Higginbotham: Right, we say that though, but I think there is lot of other people out there who are like in the same boat with us, who don’t want anyone to touch their stuff.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Right absolutely and this might help them. My fear and I don’t know if anyone else thinks as, it is my fear is that when I am an content producer and BlueFox is a content producer, we are all content producers, we upload our video, what if it mistakenly things at my video, which is my stuff and has no stolen content and whatsoever, what if the algorithm screws up and won’t let me post my video?

Cariann Higginbotham: Then you contact Google and say “dude, you are screwing with me?”

Benjamin Higginbotham: Have you ever tried to contact Google before?

Cariann Higginbotham: No, I haven’t. It’s a matter of fact.

Benjamin Higginbotham: The most painful process known to man. They will not get back to you.

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, but the thing is that…

Benjamin Higginbotham: I am going to apologize for that, go ahead BlueFox.

BlueFox: My question is that, is the user going to be able to control that or practically is YouTube going to be going through accounts over and over and over and see if they are actually copying or not?

Benjamin Higginbotham: I don’t know how that’s going to work, I don’t know if it is going to be like an upgrade where from this point forward they scan all the incoming files for possible copyright infringement or if it is going to be all at once they scan their entire data base for copyright infringement pull stuff down.

Cariann Higginbotham: According to this article, it says we know that YouTube and Google are sharing beds now. So, Google video sharing site is how it is said in this, I love this article, “it is collaborating with Time Warner and Disney in a few new identification tools, so the engineers at Google help the technology will be able to, will enable content owners to identify attributes in video clips uploaded to this site that have copyright protection, if that answers any questions at all.

Kay: My girly question is, why we are seeing this now? Was there no technology? Was the technology not available a year ago, why now all of a sudden are we seeing this?

Benjamin Higginbotham: Because it is very difficult to do. How do you take a file that someone recorded of the television and determine that it is a copy written file versus the file that you have got from your home video camera and how does the computer without any human intervention, whatsoever, determine that “yes, your home video is allowed, but no the file of the television is not allowed”. How does it scan through the file and say this one has copyright, this one doesn’t?

Cariann Higginbotham: Got you, interesting. There is a huge not necessarily need, but there is a huge motivation on Google on YouTube’s part apparently just in March Viacom sued Google and YouTube over a billion dollars for breach of copyrights.

Benjamin Higginbotham: That’s billon with a b-uh

Cariann Higginbotham: Yes, with a B not an M, so I think they are trying to cover their buds and they have a lot of motivation to do so.

Benjamin Higginbotham: I go back and forth on that. See the thing with, I think with Viacom this is pretty good for YouTube, because if they win the law suit with Viacom then any smaller law suit that might become in law try to say, you have got this copyright problem, they can just point to the big huge one and go, “Aa-Aa, go away”, so they can just smash all those very small petty costly stupid ones that get in their way all at once with this huge one. Now if they lose the billion dollars law suit.

Kay: Everyone is coming out of the woodwork.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, they are all going to come out of the woodwork and blow, well that suck, of course I am sure they are going to appeal and it is going to be like multibillion year process, but I am not sure that this would actually drive this technology. I have to assume that they have been working on this for a much longer than when Viacom said “we are going to”, this isn’t just technology, you just go…

Cariann Higginbotham: Right.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Look, what I made last weekend, hi you can fine copyright, that was so awesome, it four lines of code. I was like BlueFox, I need to figure how to do copyright and he is like “Hey, I will do that for you right now”.

Kay: This woke up on morning, no they were doing this for a while and all we have it.

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, OK.

Kay: Moving along.

Cariann Higginbotham: We are done with that now, right?

Benjamin Higginbotham: I am going back to the list, give me a moment, the list was behind another window, it is not like as always there in front of me, it should be I suppose. The next topic is high-tech systems ain’t to foil counterfeit wine. Who all here drinks wine, I drink wine.

Kay: I drink wine.

Cariann Higginbotham: I sometimes, I yes.

Kay: My friends all of them have.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Blue, do you drink wine?

BlueFox: I am of under age, so let’s not talk about that.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Answer is of course not.

BlueFox: No, never.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Counterfeit wine, someone hand you wine you start drinking it, you go “that’s beer, that’s not wine, this is counterfeit wine”.

BlueFox: Dr.Pepper, what you are talking about?

Cariann Higginbotham: No, it is actually a more a kin to pirated DVD’s. So, you are walking along any city in any town USA and some guy walks up to you and opens up his trench coat and says “hey, want to buy some wine? ” that kind of thing.

Benjamin Higginbotham: All right, if a some guy walks up to me and opens up his trench coat and he has got a bottle of wine in the trench coat, I am probably going to buy it, because I am like “dude, you just carry that bottle of wine in your trench coat, that’s awesome”.

Kay: Are we talking about repackaging here with this?

Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, you take your boxed wine and you stick it in a big pretty bottle that’s what basically what you can do?

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, pretty much and it is one, I actually found this article before I found the YouTube article, but now I am seeing how similar they actually are. Sorry kids, I thought that was interesting, I didn’t even think they would be a market for counterfeit wine in a newer shape or form. Clearly, I don’t drink enough I guess.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Do you need to drink more wine?

Cariann Higginbotham: Yes, I suppose, like I just said, I didn’t realize that there was an issue with that, but some people have teamed up with Eastman Kodak or Kodak for most of us to have invisible markings on the inks, visible markers added to the inks that can talk, other packaging component. So, same kind of thing with the copyright fingerprinting, which I thought was …

Benjamin Higginbotham: You are big in a DRM tonight, aren’t you?

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, I guess, I am sorry, I didn’t realize this, I am big brother, you noticed.

Benjamin Higginbotham: You are not big brother.

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, yesterday we were talking about street level and all that different stuff.

Benjamin Higginbotham: It is basically same thing, there is a way, but how does this help any. See the thing with YouTube stuff is this instant, right? So they find a copyright stuff, it is pretty much right away. How do I test for counterfeit wine?

Kay: How am I not just taking it, pouring out of one bottle, pouring into another bottle and just selling it again re-corking and selling it, where is the technology in this?

Benjamin Higginbotham: Well, that’s the problem I think, that’s exactly what they are doing. They are taking like out of a box and putting in a bottle…

Cariann Higginbotham: But, she is saying buying an expensive bottle, get the cheap crap, pour out the expenses stuff, put the cheap crap, of course in that kind of it fits the purpose, that’s a lot of steps dude.

Kay: What are they doing now?

Benjamin Higginbotham: I would just reprint this sticker.

Kay: And stick it on?

Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, exactly. It is just like counterfeit sticker on your app, I mean wine bottles really aren’t all that distinctive from one another, right?

Kay: So, may be they have lost. May be you have lost me with this article, they are making distinct labels to put on the bottles, what are they doing?

Cariann Higginbotham: Yes, the actual vineyards who are caring about their wine are making specific labels with these invisible markers in them that say “no really, the wine in the bottle is the wine in the bottle” and…

Benjamin Higginbotham: So, if it is an invisible marker, how do I as a consumer know that I am getting the right wine with the right wine in the bottle?

Kay: To any of my back light in the store?

Cariann Higginbotham: I don’t know, you guys didn’t tell me?

BlueFox: Get a scotch and lemon juice on it…

Cariann Higginbotham: That’s exactly what I start to thinking.

BlueFox: Well I use thing though, they do have for instance 750 millimeter Green Burgundy bottles, they have Bordeaux bottles, Amber Hock bottles all depending on what type of consistency they want inside the wine whether you have to shake it up, chill it whatever, but a lot of times they actually put their label engraved on the bottle or they have the embedding on the bottle. So, that’s why people switch it out. Don’t ask me why I know this?

Benjamin Higginbotham: You don’t, you are instant. You say for example, Wikipedia knows all.

BlueFox: It is just few friends here big winos

Benjamin Higginbotham: Winos, is that what they are know as? Winos?

BlueFox: Yes.

Benjamin Higginbotham: That’s awesome.

BlueFox: I saw a wino eating a grape and like “dude, you have to wait”, they get mad at

Kay: I guess at the end of the I am just not feeling what’s keeping somebody from talking cheap wine pouring it into the expensive wine bottle and reselling it?

Cariann Higginbotham: Because you have to get the expensive wine bottle to start. I just think that’s too many steps like I am going to pay a thousand dollars for the really good wine…

Benjamin Higginbotham: Then pour it out.

Kay: Drink it, may be if you have a bottle.

Cariann Higginbotham: You drink it, but then why you break even for all that work? That can’t possibly be good.

Kay: All right I back down.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Scientist seek the turning cars into a mobile communications network.

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, I think it is awesome.

Benjamin Higginbotham: What is it?

Cariann Higginbotham: Well, it is exactly how it sounds as far as I am concerned.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Mobile com net.

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, sort of it is…

Benjamin Higginbotham: MobComNet?

Cariann Higginbotham: Wow, it is going to be one of those nights…OK, so American’s love their cars and the modern computer systems have advanced or enhanced vehicle performance and safety, right? But, then American’s love their cars, they love their computers, they love using their computers in their cars.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Are you just reading this right off the website?

Cariann Higginbotham: No, well that part I was.

Kay: It is no secret American’s love their cars, what do Europeans do with their cars?

Cariann Higginbotham: They don’t love their cars, they walk everywhere.

Benjamin Higginbotham: So, we love our cars, we love our gas guzzling cars, get that right? And computer technology is advanced to the point where we have got quantum physics, quantum mechanics, right in the computer.

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah.

Benjamin Higginbotham: So, we are just putting Wifi in cars is that what we are doing now?

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, actually standard radio protocols such as Digital Short Range Communication (DSRC) combined with wireless LAN technology, you can actually have networks between vehicles equipped with the arm bound sensing devices, as it were.

Benjamin Higginbotham: What does that do for me, other than make it really dangerous to drive?

Cariann Higginbotham: Well, I don’t know if it really does make it really dangerous to drive per se.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Blue are you old enough to drive?

BlueFox: You can chat with an on coming car.

Cariann Higginbotham: Well, how many times have you wanted to tell somebody they are jerk, while driving?

Kay: Slowdown you are cute.

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, “hey baby what’s your number?” I don’t know, may be…

BlueFox: Well I guess you won’t need the location, because I am right in front of you, so…

Benjamin Higginbotham: I really don’t understand, may be I am just too old, blue may be you can help me out here. A) Are you old enough to drive? B) Would you actually use this?

BlueFox: For the record I am 20 and second I can probably see it not being using like a messenger format, but for anything like let’s say if you are doing a care band of people. So, you have your car and a friend’s car and like a camper that way you can communicate between you and the other two cars wherever you guys are going for a road trip.

Kay: So, we moved CB radios into the…

Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. We used to do that exact same thing with just CB, it is like 100 Bugs per car and you are done.

Cariann Higginbotham: All right, how about this and yes I am reading this right from the website so shoot me. Drivers would have access to information about dangers within or near their mobile network, such as the presence of smoke from a forest fire, radiation from a dirty bomb, OK?

Benjamin Higginbotham: Speed trap.

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, great, just one vehicle going to be equipped with the detection device in order for other vehicles in the network to be aware of the threat, that network could also list escape routes for drivers in the event of the terrorist attack. The technology is also could be providing life saving communications between emergency personal, man I am having a hard time tonight. During hurricane Katrina and obviously September 11, communication infrastructures were destroyed and first responders were unable to communicate. A mobile vehicle network could provide in a central lifeline for emergency personal and others to stay connected when all other networks fail.

Benjamin Higginbotham: OK, that I think it makes little bit sense for emergency vehicles, although I assume that they already had Internet access and networking access built into the vehicle, may be I am wrong. I know that they are doing in Forte Wayne. From a car standpoint, from a consumer vehicle standpoint, I just feel like a lot of this information, the traffic information, the hazardous information all other fun jazz could just be built in to the built-in GPS right in the vehicle and I know that not all vehicles have built-in GPS, but may be we just make that standard option and then right on the map, right on the screen, just goes emergency and this part of the wireless download.

Cariann Higginbotham: I think that’s where this is sort of pushing it to, if that makes any sense?

BlueFox: I think it is a different approach towards it, because if you think about it, if I am going 75 miles down the highway and all of sudden it detects a dirty bomb, I am pretty much going to look at it on my little GPS screen or whatever and then I am going to go right into the dirty bomb or if there is some accident, I am going to look at it and then get into the accident. So…

Cariann Higginbotham: Wait, do you have it like a suicide wish, what’s going on?

BlueFox: No, I am just saying. It is talking about detecting radio active…dirty bombs or…

Cariann Higginbotham: Jet power situations, I think we lost….

Benjamin Higginbotham: BlueFox say that again we lost you for a moment.

BlueFox: Perhaps what I am saying is those radio, it is going to so far, so probably by the time it hits my little receiver…

Kay: It is too late.

Cariann Higginbotham: No, actually the way that it’s, I think may be I misspoke to a certain extent. They have this what they called Manatee [phonetic] platform.

Benjamin Higginbotham: A Man net?

Cariann Higginbotham: I don’t know … not French ok. It allows moving vehicles with in a range of a 100 to 300 meters of each other to connect and car by car create a network with a wider range. So, yeah, if you are the first guy to hit the dirty bomb, yeah you are probably dead, OK? But, the guy 100 meters behind you or 300 meters behind you and then other 3 behind him and 3 behind him and 3 behind him that guys is going to be relatively safe, do you see what I am saying?

Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, that makes. So, it is more of an immediate, because like in Minnesota we have got those signs up there that say crash on, interstate 62 or, so this is basically a much faster version of that. Detects the crash immediately and then pushes it backward.

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, because you know down well, as soon as you get to those stupid signs you are already in the middle of it.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Absolutely.

Cariann Higginbotham: And so this way you can help to get a round stuff.

Benjamin Higginbotham: If you are there, it takes like good 10 minutes for that to really truly kick in, it depends on the accent and how long, but about 10 minutes, so this is just expediting that process. OK, I am getting more and more. So, that makes a little bit more sense, that’s kind of cool.

Cariann Higginbotham: I am sweating over here. No, kidding what else would you like me to flub up tonight?

Benjamin Higginbotham: You are doing fine. elderwisdomcircle.org, they were saying that in pre-show they were talking saying that they thought this was a scientology thing, you were like “no, it is not”, what is it?

Cariann Higginbotham: Thanks guys I am not that crazy, short little story. I was looking for advice. I had already turn to my husband, my mother, my co-workers, my close friends, my not so close friends, strangers on the street, pretty much anybody who would listen to me. I had turned to about said problem and it is one of those things that just simply isn’t going away. So, I have to continually go over the situation. So, instead of figuring I am going to try in cost some more strangers in the street, I would look for advice online and I know that there are places like, I think it is Yahoo has an ask sort of thing where you can type in your question, whatever it is. Like does anyone know what that song was from? Such and such a commercial and people would answer and that’s cool, because it stays open for a certain amount of time. So, I was looking for something like that, because I didn’t know what else would be out there. So, honestly all I do was Google the word advise which was probably silly of me, but I came across what this website elderwidomcircle.org and in all honesty and I hope this doesn’t sound like too crazy or racist or something, I honestly thought it had something to do with may be American Indian like, for some reason it is was the elder part, I think it is what got me, so I thought may be I don’t qualify because clearly I am not American Indian, but I clicked on it anyway just to see and it is actually …. They are actually building it more as a cyber grandparent and that’s I really agree with that. What’s going on is that, there is bunch of people retired may be in old folks homes or what have you? Who have lived their lives, have lived very full lives, have the kids, have done the bungee jumping thing of what have you and they are willing to share their wisdom with anybody who is willing to ask for it, does that make sense?

Benjamin Higginbotham: Absolutely.

Cariann Higginbotham: So, all you do really is you go to the website and click around a little bit and you can just send an email right from there and you can choose which category it is, if it is like a money issue or relationship issue, issue with your kids, job issue whatever, I just type it away hit send and within a couple of days somebody has gone over your email and has come up with a response for you and these are volunteers from all around the country, like I said, it is people who are like an old folks homes and stuff like that who are willing to give out any sort of wisdom, I can’t think of another word other than that…

Benjamin Higginbotham: No, no, that makes sense. They have lived life, they know stuff that we don’t know, they have been through it before may be we haven’t, they have may be not the answers, but they have things that you may not know that you need to think about in certain situations.

Cariann Higginbotham: Right, they can be very encouraging, it is really is like a grandparent to certain extent, because sometimes exactly they may not have been through the same kind of situation, but they can certainly say “oh, honey don’t even worry about that it is not even worth it, you are 30 live your life” that kind of thing. So, it is nice just to have that pat on the back or add up when you very well may need it and or there are sometimes have been people who have gone through those situations that will be able to say “look, I was married twice and I have three kids from three different women and this is how it ended up”. So, I thought it was really cool, I very much liked and appreciated my answer, it was clearly personal, it wasn’t like a formal letter and anyway shape of form, I really feel like this woman read it, understood it, thought about it and wrote back to me and I thought that was really, really cool.

Kay: I think that’s really cute. They are sitting around not too many 14-year-olds are working into nursing homes and saying “hey, I have never met you before, can I have some advice about this?”

Cariann Higginbotham: Right, that’s the other thing, it is the indemnity of the web helps add to that, that you feel comfortable enough to ask a complete stranger for advice.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Did you think a 14-year-old really going to use this service though, I mean they are young, BlueFox: is like 14, BlueFox, would you use this service?

Cariann Higginbotham: You are so mean.

BlueFox: Me in my 14-year-old self will totally use it.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Really what do you think, would use something like this?

BlueFox: I think it is actually for people of your age in all times, for people go through the – I can see young people use the net, but I can see also people going through like mid life cries using it.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, that more of what I thought, I just don’t see people lower than our age bracket, actually using this, especially 14-year-olds because they know everything.

Kay: OK, in general nobody is going into a nursing home and sitting down with somebody and saying “I am going through this, did you experience anything like this in life?”

Benjamin Higginbotham: That’s true, I would assume that’s true, I mean, I just know something I never really thought of doing.

Kay: I wouldn’t do it, but it also against them purpose, it gets them something to do. My question is do they have young people sitting down with them teaching them how to use the Internet, is somebody printing of these emails and handing it to them and they are writing it on long hand and…

Cariann Higginbotham: Sad, you are making the senior citizen selling their bunch of lumps or something.

Kay: My grandmother has email and everything she emails me is in capital letters. I kid you not as about a billion question marks after it. It will be like good morning ???, I just want to know…

Cariann Higginbotham: I am just tanking aren’t I?

Benjamin Higginbotham: No, you are doing great.

Kay: I want to know who is helping them with the Internet?

Cariann Higginbotham: I want to know, I just thought it was really interesting, there is like career things, children things, the other nice thing is there is you can browse a lot of the advise that has already been given, so you get to see the question anonymously, obviously, and then the answer that was given and I read through a couple of these, because I sort of have the same sort of reservations you guys are talking about and I decided, no actually these people seem to know what they are talking about and it is anything and everything, it is gardening, it is health, it is home like gee, I have never hung a picture before, can you teach me how to paint? All the way up to getting a wife to stop asking questions about an old affair and I think that’s interesting.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Charlie Am in the Ustream chat room asks “isn’t that what counselors are for?”

Cariann Higginbotham: Some people, I have been to counseling before when I was much younger and sometimes you feel intimidated by these people, every once in a while it is like the classic stare typical scenario when a therapist say “And how do you feel about that?” you feel like they are analyzing every little thing that you do and say and all you want is just one stupid answer to one stupid question and I think that a therapy may not be good, because they are going to be like “how is your relationship with your mother and what you think about that? What do you think you are going to do about that? and that’s great, for some situations and for some people, but not something like “hey, I don’t know what to wear to so and so wedding, because I dated her husband to be and I think that could be awkward, that’s a very specific kind of question, does that make sense?

Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, absolutely. All right I think we are in close up the show there, BlueFox give us some more promo material, once again where can we find you and when are you on. When are you on Ustream BlueFox?

BlueFox: I am actually on 24X7.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Can we watch you sleep?

BlueFox: I actually no, I don’t.

Cariann Higginbotham: As he said, he is on 24x7 of course he doesn’t sleep, how stupid you have be?

BlueFox: I have been actually following few people lately, I made a loop of myself, at the computer sitting there typing, so people like “man, that guy never sleeps”.

Cariann Higginbotham: Cheater, but he wears blue a lot, I can’t figure it out?

BlueFox: So, I have him for the day and I have him for the night, it is great stuff, but you can find me over at Ustream.tv/channel/bluefoxtv also at bluefoxonline.com.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Is this your first venture in to new media or did you do other new media projects before this?

BlueFox: No, I actually stumbled on to this Chris Pirillo shot me an email with the link to it. So I kind of took it on with both hands tied and it is really the first thing that I have ever done before this I was just be doing graphic design, tooling away at the computer like a nerd.

Benjamin Higginbotham: It sounds like you have fun doing it though, it sounds like you are really enjoy the new media aspect I know that we have joined your room before, which is how we got to know you and we chatted before online and I would watch your show, you would watch my show as just fun little harmonistic thing going on, holding hands stuff like that, rainbows…

Cariann Higginbotham: I wish to see that, that’s so cute, is that what you do when you are not with me.

Benjamin Higginbotham: Yeah, late at night I am just watching BlueFox, all though when I realized it is probably just a loop.

Kay: So, all in all end of the show, how did the girls do?

Benjamin Higginbotham: Blue what do you think?

BlueFox: Awesome, very good topics.

Benjamin Higginbotham: I am going to say awesome as well.

Cariann Higginbotham: Yeah, you better?

Benjamin Higginbotham: That’s right, I better, I have to ever require to say awesome. It is in my contract. I like to thank everyone for joining us. This is where I go into my cheesy announcer voice apparently, yeah, we talked about it last night, but I am going to do it anyhow. Thank you everyone for joining us, we are going to do this again tomorrow night at 10:00pm Eastern, 9:00pm Central, 7:00pm Pacific and you could watch us on Ustream.tv or if you go to technologyevangelist.com you can read our blogs and up to our RSS feed and on the right hand side, you can actually subscribe to the show, download in iTunes, do the enhanced AAC version. and we are going to do something fun, I think it’s next week, we haven’t quite decided when? But we are going to start trying to do these things in surround sound, for no reason whatsoever, because we can. So, make sure to subscribe to the enhanced AAC version in iTunes also make sure “vote for us” on iTunes. Search for Technology Evangelist, go to the enhanced section leave some comments, give us some rating, do the same thing in Ustream, give us a rating if you like to support for us, give us a positive feedback, if you didn’t like us, we are called BlueFox.tv, thank you everyone for listening, hope we will talk with you soon.